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Session 6: The Fully Informed Administrator - Planning Return to School - Free Educational videos for Students in k-12


Session 6: The Fully Informed Administrator - Planning Return to School - By Lumos Learning



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00:0-1 uh , All right , everybody , welcome to our
00:04 sixth symposium Webinar session . We're happy tohave have you
00:13 on Bond . I got to say it's been a
00:16 , you know , been a good run for us
00:19 of meeting a lot of people hearing your comments ,
00:25 I think , providing some useful information on we're gonna
00:28 try to do all of that . Uh , today
00:33 as well . Um , so we're going to talk
00:39 about planning to return to school on . I got
00:43 to tell you , I'm not exactly certain what that
00:45 means . In today's world where schools open and then
00:52 closed . Two days later , they open . They
00:54 have closed two days later . Onda . Actually ,
00:57 we've tried to make today's session relevant to these sort
01:00 of fast changing issues that need to be dealt with
01:05 . And I hope you all will talk about ,
01:07 um , talk about managing these rapidly shifting requirements .
01:15 So I'm gonna I'm gonna roll through a few issues
01:19 to kick this off , and then we're going Thio
01:25 , open it up . A number of people have
01:26 already volunteered . So the challenges of working in this
01:31 environment first and foremost scheduling , you know , what
01:34 is your calendar look like ? How do you set
01:36 up calendars for students . How do you manage small
01:40 classes ? Half classes alternating classes . The teacher to
01:46 student ratios Change now . And how do you manage
01:51 this when basically , the number of teachers , the
01:53 number of students is the same . But now you're
01:56 changing the constraints on section size and meeting times ,
02:01 bus schedules , getting students to school and home .
02:06 Um , obviously last year's bus schedule . Not not
02:12 going to accommodate this the the continuity between remote and
02:17 classroom learning . So when co vid first hit ,
02:22 we all completely online , and now we're going somewhere
02:27 in between . So now you need to manage this
02:30 continuity . Does your curriculum match up ? Is the
02:34 online learning that you want the students to do ?
02:38 The correct thing , given what you're trying to do
02:40 in class , is classroom learning supporting the remote learning
02:44 or vice versa . How is the teacher viewing this
02:48 , um , common areas such as cafeterias would be
02:53 closed . So this actually changes the social dynamic .
02:58 It changes what you're doing with students . Do they
03:01 bring their lunch ? Do they sit in in a
03:04 class ? Do they sit in a gym 6 ft
03:06 apart ? You know , I have lunch or snack
03:10 ? Um , you know , complications are you doing
03:13 ? Daily health checks for staff and students temperatures or
03:17 covert testing ? What kind of covert testing ? When
03:20 do they get the results ? What rules ? For
03:24 when you don't allow someone to come in . And
03:26 then if you find out they're positive Now , what
03:28 do you do ? And enormous challenge . Unplanned closures
03:35 due to positive results . So this leads to this
03:39 problem , which I'm sure you've all thought off .
03:42 Is that a student test Positive or staff member test
03:47 positive . You're supposed if you're going by the book
03:51 , you are , um , going to quarantine them
03:55 and everyone they've come in contact with for 14 days
03:59 . Um , if you quarantine your teacher for 14
04:02 days , who takes his or her classes ? If
04:05 , uh if you quarantine the student , do you
04:08 quarantine ? The entire class asked you quarantine all the
04:11 classes the students been in , all the students who
04:13 have been on the bus anyway , it's I only
04:17 have questions . Okay , So hybrid model . Um
04:21 , you know , just this I think people have
04:23 seen this is a cool visual of it . S
04:28 o assumes assumes that you're Onley gonna have 50% of
04:32 your students on campus in your in your school at
04:35 any given time , and you're maintaining 6 ft social
04:39 distancing while they're in the school buildings and they alternate
04:43 between in person and remote learning during the week so
04:47 you could do it a bunch of different ways ,
04:49 right on Group A , you know , Monday ,
04:52 Wednesday they do us . They come to school Tuesday
04:55 , Thursday , Friday , and on the weekend .
04:57 They do it like they do remote . You could
04:59 do it . You could alternate the other days for
05:04 a different group , and then you can have distance
05:08 . Uh , you know , distance learning Onley where
05:10 they're all staying online . Um , other options .
05:15 You can have the half days be in the morning
05:17 , so one group comes in the morning . You
05:20 have a lunch break again , not in the cafeteria
05:23 . You have the afternoon group and you can do
05:27 this shift scheduling . And so basically , um ,
05:32 you know , group comes in Mondays and Wednesdays or
05:38 you do down here just one day a week with
05:41 group comes in on Monday . Groupie comes in on
05:43 Tuesday , etcetera . So again , a bunch of
05:47 options the teachers get a planning day . Obviously ,
05:51 this requires a lot more planning on the part of
05:54 teachers and a lot , I think a lot more
05:57 record keeping on the part of teachers . Eso course
06:01 subjects our focus for in person instruction . So this
06:06 is really where the students they put the teachers move
06:11 around ? Um , S o you know , they
06:17 sit in their class . The teacher , the first
06:19 of science teacher comes in done . Math teacher comes
06:23 in done . English language arts done , social studies
06:28 done . Student gets on the bus . Glad their
06:31 home or option for is all kinds mixing and matching
06:37 this , uh , you know , any various different
06:41 ways , Onda . Of course , there's this whole
06:44 issue of pods which , you know you've heard of
06:48 of students in the home base setting , staying home
06:54 , working with other students . Everyone's been tested and
06:59 they're working together in small groups under supervision . They
07:04 could do that . Supervision at home . They can
07:06 also do that supervised pod thing in school . So
07:11 planning timelines , um , planning timelines . So distance
07:16 learning , distance learning . This is , you know
07:19 , sort of a how how this changes within phases
07:23 , distance learning with students supports hybrid learning . Uh
07:27 , targeted students supports hybrid learning and a rotating schedule
07:32 . And then the ultimate on this continuum a return
07:38 Thio in person . So we've got returned to in
07:42 person Is the extreme over here ? Distance learning the
07:45 extreme where the students never come to school and three
07:49 potential phases Uh , in between . Okay , Body
07:56 . Who's incredibly well informed . Experienced . Um And
08:02 I would say , um uh , clear . Uh
08:07 , I would say that's a little bit of a
08:08 way of saying blunt , uh , in a good
08:11 way . Bonnie , what do you think of all
08:13 this ? Thanks , Dr Rogoff . First of all
08:17 , my name is Bonnie McCrae . I'm a retired
08:20 school administrator . I currently work as an education consultant
08:25 for Lou . Most learning as well have been doing
08:27 that for the past five years . I have experienced
08:31 with my daughter in law this past spring , uh
08:35 , moved in tow , live with her and my
08:37 son for a while . And she was a high
08:41 school teacher . The kids had to have her course
08:44 , and all of a sudden the schools closed .
08:47 They were required to have her course in order to
08:49 graduate . She was just totally stressed . She is
08:53 an awesome teachers , generally works in at risk situations
08:57 , and she is in one of the very few
08:59 still year round schools here in Texas . I found
09:02 that she stayed up late at night . She worked
09:06 incessantly during the day . Many of her students were
09:10 taking on part time jobs because their families were in
09:13 a financial bind , so it was almost impossible for
09:17 her to reach the students . She was having zoom
09:20 classroom meetings at least 2 to 3 times a week
09:23 , having group meetings with administrators and staff and still
09:27 trying to reach out to the kids . Some of
09:29 the kids had packets . Some of them worked online
09:31 . Some of them did the hybrid . What she
09:35 found was that she was not only trying to contact
09:38 the students , but she was trying to contact parents
09:41 , step parents , grand parents , aunts and uncles
09:44 . Anything she could And I had to say ,
09:47 Bless her heart . She got it done . But
09:49 that was the most trying few months for her .
09:52 They have already started back up online , and they
09:56 have schedules Now . The stress levels that they're experiencing
10:00 aren't nearest great , but they're still there because these
10:03 teachers want to have that personal relationship with the students
10:08 . They're trying to do it online because some of
10:10 their football team members tested positive so the sports had
10:15 to stop practicing that , and she's a cheerleader .
10:18 Coaches well , so she had to stop that .
10:20 What they're doing is having their zoom classroom meetings where
10:25 the students sign on , and when the teacher is
10:28 finished , the teacher signs off and the next teacher
10:31 comes on . To me , this seems to be
10:34 working a little more effectively , except that they're stressed
10:37 for time because they may want to talk a few
10:39 more minutes . A few more students may have extra
10:42 questions about that daily assignment , so it's still causing
10:45 stress . I am the other hand and put in
10:48 a personal situation where I now live with my granddaughter
10:51 and two great grandchildren in the school district I live
10:55 in now . It will be starting up next Monday
10:59 . There will be a meet the Teacher Night this
11:01 Thursday night , where we'll walk through like a parade
11:04 to go through the building . Of course , wearing
11:07 masks to pick up our chromebooks are hi fi hotspots
11:12 that their WiFi hotspots that they're giving to the students
11:17 and our school supplies will be furnished by the district
11:20 . It will be at home for all students for
11:23 the first at least three weeks of school . Then
11:26 determinations will be made if some students can , on
11:30 their own voluntarily , with parents approval , come back
11:33 to school . Or should they choose to stay at
11:36 home . My concern with this is we have a
11:40 pre K four year old and bless her heart .
11:45 She's our Tasmanian devil . I don't see her sitting
11:48 in front of a computer , even with me being
11:50 the at home teacher , which I have a master's
11:52 degree in all kinds of certifications out the wazoo ,
11:56 and I have to go to an online webinar to
11:58 learn how to teach at home . It's really stressful
12:02 for parents , though I'm not as stressed . I
12:05 can handle this . No biggie , but so many
12:08 parents have to work . I know our next door
12:10 Neighbors here have two Children who are the same age
12:14 as my great grand babies , and both parents work
12:18 right now . Their grandmother takes care of them ,
12:20 but she's only speak Spanish , so she can't be
12:23 helping them . It will not work , but they
12:26 do not want their Children back in school , so
12:28 they're facing that dilemma Now . My second grade great
12:31 granddaughter , she loves being on the computer , so
12:34 I'll have to probably tell her it's time to get
12:36 off . But if I were right now in the
12:40 education field on a campus at his administrator and I've
12:44 taught everything from kindergarten through college , I know that
12:47 I would be stressed . Many of my cohorts from
12:50 years past chose this summer to retire because they said
12:54 , Bonnie , we're just not going to do this
12:57 . But I need to applaud And I think we
12:59 all do Dr Rogoff , all of the educators for
13:01 giving that extra time , extra effort and enthusiasm ,
13:06 and that's what we need to focus on . How
13:08 could we keep that enthusiasm up as we move forward
13:12 looking over your different hybrid learning situations ? If I
13:17 were an administrator right now in a campus , I'd
13:20 really like option number three . And the reason for
13:23 that is it gives that Friday to the teachers because
13:28 , let's face it , we've got to have the
13:29 teachers support in order for this to work . If
13:32 we have teachers that air so stressed or like Oh
13:35 , here I go again , I gotta learn this
13:36 . I'm gonna do this . They're not going toe
13:39 make an effort . And if they don't make a
13:41 nef ERT that's going to overflow to the students .
13:44 A swell . So I really like that option where
13:46 kids go to school one day they do at home
13:50 , online . The next day , back and forth
13:53 in the Friday is the Teachers Day for planning because
13:56 , let's face it , online planning and face to
13:59 face planning , that's going to take a lot of
14:02 extra effort . I do applaud everyone for everything that
14:06 they're doing , and I hope that it goes well
14:11 for all . I want to be there as a
14:13 support system , because that's what I feel like .
14:16 I am now for teachers and educators . So if
14:19 anyone needs or wants extra help or says Bonnie ,
14:22 can you help me just plan this or what are
14:24 your suggestions for raising self esteem ? I'd be more
14:27 than happy to help him . Thank you again ,
14:29 Dr Rogoff , for the opportunity to visit Bonnie .
14:36 You're brilliant . Really ? No . It's like ,
14:38 you know , the wisdom of of experience . Um
14:43 , you know , I have to say , I
14:45 have not heard this , um , this example where
14:51 the student is hard to reach because he or she
14:55 has toe work . But of course you said it
14:58 . I thought , you know This obviously affects a
15:00 lot of people . Particularly older , you know ,
15:03 high school students and such , but yeah , it's
15:05 a you know , it's a tremendous point and yeah
15:09 , so thank you , Bonnie . Thank you very
15:11 much . And please , uh , as we go
15:13 along , police continue to speak up David for here
15:19 . So I wanna welcome you . Um I'm hoping
15:23 you can tell us about your experience . What ?
15:27 You How you think you're gonna proceed from this point
15:32 ? Hi , everybody . How we doing ? Can
15:37 you hear me ? No . Yeah , OK ,
15:40 so here in limits , the mass , Um ,
15:46 it's still day to day . The left hand doesn't
15:49 know what the right hand's gonna dio . We do
15:52 have somewhat of a plan we put together with the
15:56 help of downtown . We have , ah , professional
15:59 development days set up for August 26 27 28 .
16:03 You can see where hens hens a lot of writing
16:06 a lot of scratching going on , but we've not
16:11 we but the district has decided to open us up
16:15 remotely . Ah , full remote . No hybrid .
16:22 We are a comprehensive high school . So we have
16:24 a vocational component which adds some more difficulty to it
16:28 because vocational students need hands on hours in order to
16:32 get certified in the area that they choose , whether
16:34 it's carpentry , culinary electron , electrician's whatever it is
16:39 . Eso they go back and forth all day .
16:40 They take courses over there they're doing their hands on
16:43 , and then there academics at the high school .
16:46 And then we have kids that are just strictly academic
16:48 at the high school . So it's we have two
16:50 principles in the building . One for the trade ,
16:53 one for the high school . We have two assistant
16:54 principals at the high school and an assistant principal for
16:56 the trade school . So it's kind of complicated a
16:59 lot of moving parts , but we make it work
17:01 . It is very successful . This , however ,
17:03 is throwing a wrench into it . We don't know
17:04 how they're going to get there their hours in that
17:07 they're required . Um , how do I say avoid
17:13 voicemail ? There we go . Sorry . Phones ringing
17:16 . Um , so we're working even today we're trying
17:19 to figure out , you know , questions and answers
17:21 for our teachers were trying to come up with Google
17:22 classroom Training's . We've asked our staff anybody that would
17:27 like to lead a PD session of 45 minutes 45
17:30 minute block thes a couple of weeks leading upto when
17:33 school starts , we'd like toe put you down whether
17:37 you're a beginner and intermediate or an expert and offer
17:40 zoom meetings because everything's gonna be virtual all of our
17:42 meetings to start the school year are gonna be virtual
17:45 , so principle will speak as to what the expectations
17:48 are and what not for everybody . And it's all
17:51 gonna be done either via Zoom or Google meets .
17:55 Um , the union and superintendent's office and human resource
18:02 is have all decided teachers won't even be coming back
18:05 into that . They're not expected back in the building
18:07 until october 5th . Um , so they're going to
18:12 be working remote . A lot of the kids that
18:15 are in the trade school are gonna be using ingenuity
18:19 as their remote learning , and then they're gonna that
18:22 they're thinking of trying to get them back into the
18:24 building at the end of September to get their hands
18:27 on . So they're weak where their hands on in
18:29 the trades will be in the building . And then
18:33 there were all their academics we've done remotely through ingenuity
18:37 . So honestly , it's it's difficult from the state
18:42 all the way down . This is uncharted territory for
18:45 everybody . Nobody knows what we're gonna run into .
18:50 You mentioned a lot of things right here at the
18:51 beginning . When a kid gets sick , what happens
18:54 ? This kid was diagnosed . He's got it that
18:55 we shut the school down , that we close the
18:57 classroom , that we shut a wing down . We
18:59 came up with a hybrid schedule . They sent out
19:01 a survey . 87% of the families wanted to do
19:05 the hybrid model . But the school committee decided full
19:09 remote . So that created another uproar . And we've
19:13 just been spiraling . So to say that we're prepared
19:17 , we'll figure it out . But we don't have
19:21 any definitive answers . But we're going with where we're
19:23 at right now , because as it stands , the
19:26 students are supposed to be back learning . Our commissioner
19:30 of education for the state said what went on from
19:33 March to Joan ain't gonna happen again because we went
19:38 into this . We were told from our superintendent ,
19:41 prepare for a couple of weeks of remote learning when
19:44 the covert crisis was growing that two weeks turned into
19:49 the rest of the year . People have lost their
19:51 jobs . We've had 168 teacher layoffs in the largest
19:55 school district , Which is ridiculous . Um , some
19:59 of them are coming back . Some of them are
20:01 not . Um so with those layoffs now and we're
20:06 talking about class sizes , the numbers don't don't jive
20:11 right now . I just got a list here .
20:13 I've just handed a list of all these students that
20:17 I have to go through , and we have 1900
20:19 students here in lemon stuff . So I'm going through
20:22 all the history students to make sure that they got
20:25 their classes . If they have holds in their schedules
20:27 , I have to fix them . We've had to
20:28 change our schedule . We had a seven period rotating
20:31 schedule . It's now gonna be five periods . We've
20:34 eliminated most of the electives . There was a talk
20:38 of going from eliminating us all the history classes and
20:42 going to humanity's . But they scrapped that , which
20:45 I'm grateful for . So we still have a history
20:47 on our English classes . They're going to combine those
20:50 that didn't happen . So we're looking at Yeah ,
20:55 Back to school . Wednesday , August 26th , right
20:59 up until September 11th . So first six days of
21:04 school will be like a we normally have a big
21:08 meeting with the whole school district in our auditorium at
21:11 the high school . Well , that's the capacity of
21:14 that . That room has gone from 1064 to 64
21:19 . Eso we won't be . Everything's gonna be virtual
21:22 , so it's gonna be different . We're thinking about
21:24 going downtown . We have local access , television tape
21:27 , some of the stuff that we want to get
21:28 out there so they can run it . People can
21:30 look it up on a YouTube video or zoom or
21:33 , you know , whatever . Whatever media we're going
21:35 to use , um , Google classroom training again .
21:40 That's the biggie . Have people lead it themselves ?
21:43 We have the district's gonna be leading some classrooms training
21:46 they have down here navigating Google classroom intro to Google
21:50 slides using Google forms . Google meets Google screen casting
21:56 . I'm just reading off these chats all the all
21:58 the stuff , But I guess so cut and dry
22:07 . We're going full remote teaches are not expected to
22:10 be back in the building till October 5th . If
22:14 they don't feel safe to come back , they have
22:16 to notify human re sources and give them the reasons
22:20 as to why they don't feel safe coming back in
22:22 that will be worked out between human resource is and
22:24 the individual teachers eso . In the meantime , the
22:27 building is open . We're here every day . Teachers
22:30 are allowed to come in . If they want to
22:31 come in and work in their classroom , that's fine
22:34 . But they are expected to have a five period
22:37 day and the periods laid out . They're gonna be
22:42 50 50 minutes or 55 minute periods . Five of
22:44 them a day . Um , they won't begin until
22:47 about 9 . 30 . So , like , 7
22:49 . 20 to 9 . 30 is teacher planning time
22:53 every day than 9 . 30 to 10 . 25
23:00 10 , 30 to 11 . 25 . Then we're
23:03 gonna have a lunch in there , but they can't
23:04 eat in the cafeteria . They'll take turns eating in
23:07 their classrooms . We're gonna try to platoon them like
23:09 you saw in one of the hybrid models . You
23:11 go in this classroom and either stay in that classroom
23:14 and the teachers rotate to try to keep that down
23:17 . But we want to keep a much interaction of
23:20 the students assed possible to not to not happen .
23:24 We want to keep the kids separate . Yeah ,
23:26 uh , question . Sure . I'm sorry . What
23:31 What's the How are you handling grading during tests and
23:34 grading during this period . So all the expectations of
23:38 being spelled up from district level people . So we
23:42 have We have people downtown , um , telling us
23:47 , you know , these the expectations , tests and
23:51 quizzes way have to take attendance every day . So
23:55 attendance has to be taken . So the teachers ,
23:57 they're gonna what they're gonna they're gonna log on ,
23:59 they're gonna have a Google classroom from , you know
24:02 , 9 30 toe 10 . 25 . And the
24:05 kids have to log into that room , and the
24:07 teacher will take attendance on the computer using our aspen
24:10 software . But they're already saying downtown if the student
24:14 says , Hey , I'm not gonna be there Thursday
24:18 , I can't be in the classroom . Can you
24:19 send me the work for that day so that I
24:21 could get it done ? That that's check ? Yes
24:23 , that student was here , so I got a
24:30 Yeah , we don't even have our oil answers yet
24:32 , and it's everybody's . Everybody's anxious . Everybody's anxious
24:37 , it's the it's still a work in progress .
24:40 And we're only a week away from having people back
24:43 for virtual meetings . And I don't I can't stand
24:45 you know nothing . I hate more than going into
24:48 a meeting and not being able to answer the questions
24:51 that people are gonna ask on and not so it's
24:55 a It's an anxious time . We're gonna figure it
24:57 out . In the meantime , students schedules and even
25:00 done , we're still working on student student schedules .
25:04 And every day it's like something changes . And I
25:08 don't know . Do you think push comes to shove
25:11 ? I mean , just trying t o see the
25:13 future that some percentage of students will get will just
25:18 be lost to you ? Absolutely . Absolutely . What
25:22 do you think That not ? What do you think
25:23 that percentage would be ? We were in a in
25:30 a district that has a lot of diversity and a
25:34 lot of low income people . And a lot of
25:36 these kids do work . They're gonna be out working
25:39 and they got little brothers and sisters . Or they
25:41 got three people at home , all with a chromebook
25:45 trying to log on to their first grade class ,
25:47 their fifth grade class , their eighth grade class .
25:50 I don't know . I mean , we just they
25:51 just spent a lot of money to buy every student
25:55 a chromebook here at the high school just for the
25:57 remote learning . Because when we went remote last year
26:00 , we were scrambling trying to get kids . Chromebooks
26:02 . They were given Chromebooks up in June . I
26:03 mean , and we ended in the June , so
26:08 there's a lot of unknowns and everything was smooth sailing
26:12 . But I think we gotta figure out a way
26:15 and figured out quick because I think this is gonna
26:17 be the future . E think we're gonna be a
26:20 lot . There's gonna be a lot more online learning
26:23 with what's going on . Do you know what I
26:25 mean ? I see the mask was hanging around for
26:27 a while . Yeah , No , I think you're
26:30 right . But I am . I'm concerned . You
26:32 know , I was that the gentleman we have from
26:37 Essex County , Um , Essex down in New Jersey
26:42 . Superintendent there , Peterson . Mr . Peterson ,
26:46 I believe Yeah , Yeah . Dr . Peterson .
26:48 Yeah . You know , he has some great ideas
26:51 , and they were even talking about bringing the kids
26:53 back with , you know , special that needed special
26:56 ed services , bringing them back early . We'll get
27:00 them in the building and spread them out . There's
27:02 plenty of room , and I thought that was a
27:03 great idea , but there's no talk of that here
27:06 . And and we're We've lost so many people have
27:08 been laid off a lot of them . A special
27:09 ed people . So now you know , our special
27:14 ed coordinator is talking to the lawyer about , you
27:16 know , civil rights violations . If you don't have
27:19 enough staff to meet the needs of these kids ,
27:21 it's just every day . It's something else , you
27:23 know . Yeah . Wow . All right , well
27:25 , thank you very much . I can't say it's
27:27 a You know , it's a beautiful picture , but
27:30 it's the It's the truth . So it's nice to
27:33 talk to somebody about it because you gotta be careful
27:36 who you talk to around here . Yeah . Okay
27:39 , good . Thank you so much . Thank you
27:42 . Ok , carry . Are you Are you on
27:46 the call ? I didn't see your name . Okay
27:55 , on Jan has been with us before . Are
27:59 you on the call ? I don't think so ,
28:02 either . Okay . Valerie , I'm here . Valerie
28:11 . Okay . So what is your experience ? What
28:15 are you coping with it ? The moment . How
28:17 are you managing this shift to an unknown future ?
28:24 Well , right now what we're doing , we are
28:26 training teachers . Uh , on google meet Google hurt
28:32 somebody just mentioned it . Google attendants . So we're
28:36 training them on Google attendance . Google classroom bit emoji
28:40 were training . You're trying to get them trained .
28:43 School starts next week . Um , we're going to
28:48 school . Will be open Monday , Tuesday and Thursday
28:53 from 7 . 30 but not 7 . 30 from
28:57 seven o'clock to 12 . 30 on those days .
29:02 And the other days are for planning of Wednesday .
29:05 Friday , we're gonna plant and students will eat lunch
29:10 in the classroom And once they leave school on their
29:15 way out the door , uh , they would take
29:17 lunch with them . Can you hear me ? Yes
29:20 . Okay . On their way out the door ,
29:22 they would take lunch . The the bus . We're
29:25 gonna have bus monitors , so they're gonna have a
29:28 lunch on the bus and they would pass it out
29:30 to the students as they get off the bus .
29:34 So right now , that's what we have in place
29:36 . And we're gonna meet this afternoon at three o'clock
29:40 and I found out mawr what we're going to do
29:43 on next week . Do do all of your students
29:48 have chromebooks ? Yes , they all have Chromebooks .
29:54 And were you ? And in the spring you were
29:58 you were using that system you were using Google classroom
30:02 for , you know . And this spring we were
30:06 doing the package . The parents would come to the
30:09 school and we would meet them outside . They will
30:12 call it in school . And we would take the
30:15 package outside to them and that we would do this
30:17 each week . I see . And and now you'll
30:22 replace the paper with with something on the chromebook or
30:27 not , You'll still dio will replace the paper with
30:30 something on the chromebook . But we also they're also
30:33 gonna be in school to on Monday , Tuesday and
30:36 Thursday . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah .
30:40 What ? What are your teachers saying about this system
30:45 right now ? Well , just they're not saying anything
30:50 native about it . They were just getting prepared by
30:55 training them . Um , with Google , Google meet
31:00 in Google classroom . Yeah , yeah , yeah ,
31:06 I've heard he wants anything . *** . Yeah ,
31:09 And have you have you is grating an issue ,
31:14 or are you in this system , or has that
31:16 been a smooth transition ? Excuse me . In here
31:20 . What you see , grading what Howard teachers supposed
31:25 to handle grading and tests during this period . Do
31:29 the tests in class and they're gonna have to come
31:32 and do the test in place . Yeah . Yeah
31:36 . Okay . But we're working on that . We
31:39 have a I know they're gonna call me in to
31:42 do the class test and class , but I don't
31:44 know how is going to be scheduled ? We haven't
31:48 talked about that , but there are going to come
31:51 to the school to do the test . Yeah .
31:54 You know , I think one thing that occurs to
31:57 me is that , you know , compared to David
32:01 in , uh , Massachusetts , which is going entirely
32:05 online for a little while is that when students are
32:09 coming to the building , some things get resolved .
32:13 And obviously , um , you know , attendance becomes
32:18 more , you know , more clear and being to
32:22 give tests on DSO certain kinds of assignments becomes easier
32:28 . So yeah , that's definitely an advantage of hybrid
32:33 over completely , completely online . Yeah . Any other
32:40 issues that you feel your coping with at this point
32:45 ? No , um , I shared with my principal
32:49 . Yeah , I think it was on last week
32:51 about the fun Friday . Um , and we're planning
32:56 on trying that mhm awarding them . So Okay ,
33:05 but no . No way . Valerie , thank you
33:08 so much for sharing your experience with us on .
33:12 Duh . You know . Best of luck as this
33:15 seeds . Okay , Thank you . Welcome . So
33:21 let me go . Few other you know , issues
33:24 and invite everyone to comment at any point . Eso
33:30 you know , here's what Busses look like . This
33:33 is obviously one of the ager , um , stumbling
33:37 blocks . Ah , going from non socially distance to
33:42 socially distanced is that if you're really gonna socially distance
33:48 , the capacity is drastically reduced here . Almost 90%
33:52 if you sort of socially distance . Um , your
33:56 at least reducing it by 50% . And this book
34:00 comes , you know , a major chokepoint in your
34:04 ability to run classes on DVI just to apply that
34:09 same sort of thinking to classrooms . Um , you
34:13 could say that if you are giving students three feeds
34:16 of personal space and you're giving them 6 ft of
34:20 social separation , you're reducing the capacity of 1000 square
34:25 foot classroom from 31 the 12 . So the idea
34:30 that I think which you've heard a lot in the
34:32 media of all this cuts the classroom capacity in half
34:36 . It doesn't . It cuts it by more than
34:38 two thirds and s Oh , this is a major
34:43 issue Thio deal with , um , other safety protocol
34:47 , you know , issues . Temperature checks for everyone
34:51 entering the building . This also becomes a just in
34:53 terms of the the flow of people through the system
34:58 becomes a chokepoint , slows everything up . Are you
35:03 going to maintain social distancing with students online waiting to
35:08 have their temperature taken , Wipe downs of commonly handled
35:14 objects such as faucets and door handles . You know
35:19 who's doing this ? Um , Is the regular maintenance
35:23 staff doing it ? Have you increased the maintenance staff
35:25 ? Not so easy to dio , um , his
35:29 hand sanitizer accessible to everyone who's gonna keep it stocked
35:34 and replaced . Are there paper towels in the room
35:37 , toe wipe down desks and and bleach solution to
35:42 clean things ? Um , do you have ah ,
35:45 staggered schedule that allows this toe work or that interferes
35:50 with this working as students ? Um , you know
35:54 , you say Okay , we're gonna go on a
35:56 B A schedule . Welcome enough . Students get to
35:59 the classroom on time to make that schedule work .
36:04 Um , are you going to do health training for
36:07 students to be aware of the symptoms of co vid
36:12 or of flu ? You know , which , of
36:14 course , we haven't talked about much , but which
36:16 is also in the offing . Here , um ,
36:19 have you the building added signage for physical distance marking
36:24 ? And whose enforcing this is this the Is this
36:28 the teacher's job ? Uh , teachers , you know
36:32 , have enough to do . And , you know
36:34 , they don't like being police and s . You
36:37 know , that's a difficult question . I think our
36:41 guidelines and information packets available . Is there printed information
36:47 that students can take home , show their parents ,
36:50 you know , learn what the new system is commit
36:54 to being , uh , toe honoring it and doing
36:57 it . This is , uh , complicated . And
37:03 I think certainly with younger kids , you know ,
37:06 having to maintain social distance by itself is a major
37:10 challenge . So let me back up for a second
37:14 . You're dealing with a rolling Siris of crises ,
37:20 a rolling Siris of crisis . So you get these
37:23 one after another . So this has been studied as
37:27 an organizational phenomenon . And let me talk about it
37:31 just for a few minutes . So what's a crisis
37:35 ? It's something that's disruptive and unexpected . So I
37:39 think where we are is disrupted on Onyx back then
37:44 . Right ? So this is this . There's erupted
37:47 , but unexpected event . This is Cove in 19
37:51 that threatens to harm the organization or its stakeholders .
37:55 And this obviously reaches beyond students , students , parents
37:59 , administrators , teachers , everybody . And that's what
38:03 a crisis is . So what's crisis management ? So
38:09 , generally speaking , it's these steps and let's just
38:13 go through them , identify what it is you assess
38:18 it , you understand it . Now you're running into
38:21 problems because we're still learning so much about how cove
38:26 it works , what its risks are . We come
38:29 up , you know , we decide how we're going
38:31 to cope with it . Social distancing , hand washing
38:36 barriers , um , etcetera . And now we have
38:40 a strategy that we apply . And this is the
38:45 stage . You're you all are at your in this
38:48 applying this , uh , strategy and and then you
38:54 have recovery procedures afterwards . And we talked about this
38:58 some with this , you know , socio emotional issues
39:02 . When it's all said and done , you just
39:04 don't go back to the beginning and start everything's back
39:07 to normal . You have to deal with how what's
39:10 the recovery ? You know who didn't receive education during
39:14 this period who's suffered emotionally during this period , who's
39:17 managing grief , whether they be students or teachers or
39:21 any member of your community ? Um and So ,
39:27 um and this begins to look like something we talked
39:31 about in an earlier session . So if you remember
39:36 , I said management is a three step process setting
39:40 goals , man setting goals , monitoring results and giving
39:46 feedback , setting goals , monitoring results and giving feedback
39:51 . Now , this begins , toe look like that
39:53 cycle we're gonna diagnosis , we're gonna plan we're gonna
39:57 implement . Each unit needs its own plan . You
40:02 need to debrief . That's this monitor what's going on
40:07 ? And you need to start the cycle again ,
40:10 right ? You need to make changes and repeat it
40:12 . Learn from what you've done . What's working with
40:15 doesn't work , and testing and simulations are great tools
40:21 toe lead to future success . So simulations even this
40:26 to go back a second here , even This is
40:29 a simulation , right ? We're drawing a bust ,
40:32 and we're saying , Let's simulate what a bus looks
40:35 like if we apply , this rule was simulate what
40:38 a bus looks like . If we apply that rule
40:41 , that's a simulation . And you could do this
40:44 with , uh , with planning tests with managing ,
40:53 you know , students with managing teacher training . So
40:57 this is this process . Don't think of it of
41:01 just coping from minute to minute , short term .
41:04 See it in a bigger picture as a cycle .
41:08 And it's this cycle of management applied to this specific
41:14 situation where you've got these these threatening , um ,
41:21 threatening issues that you have to minimize their impact .
41:26 Okay , So good crisis management leaders , they build
41:30 trust through candor . You know , you gotta be
41:32 honest . Once you've lost , um , people's trust
41:38 . Once you lost your credibility as a leader ,
41:42 you've lost everything . Once you've lost their trust in
41:48 you , once they don't see it was a credible
41:51 person . You've lost everything . So , yeah ,
41:54 you've got a lot of bad news to give out
41:56 , right ? I mean , so David talked about
41:59 Well , we'd like to be able to do this
42:01 , but we've had 140 layoffs . We're gonna Yeah
42:05 . And without it , you know , you can't
42:08 not talk about it , right ? You gotta admit
42:11 it . And I'm sorry , David . Go ahead
42:15 . No , no , I'm just I'm agreeing with
42:17 you . I'm sorry . Okay . It's okay .
42:19 Um , you've got to create a culture and a
42:22 mindset that we're in this boat together , you know
42:26 ? And we're tryingto figure out a way to cope
42:29 with this , uh , together . And that we're
42:32 a team and we've got this opponent and we're managing
42:37 against this opponent . And the stronger the opponent is
42:42 , the stronger our bonds to each other and our
42:45 willingness to help each other should be You need to
42:48 find your weak spots and protect them the best you
42:52 can . You're in battle . You gotta find what
42:55 are the vulnerable areas and take take , uh ,
42:58 you know , take action . Thio . Protect them
43:02 . Maybe it's a certain kind of teaching experience .
43:05 Maybe it's some of the athletic programs . Maybe it's
43:08 students of a certain type . Maybe it's special ed
43:12 students . You know , Maybe it's ah , students
43:15 . Um , you know who come from a certain
43:18 areas , neighborhoods or ages . Whatever . What are
43:23 your sort of hot spots that need to be most
43:26 protected ? Be decisive and prepared to take risks .
43:31 You cannot make the right decision every time and you
43:35 will be blamed . So just be ready for that
43:39 . You know , you're gonna do the best you
43:41 can . And what you can do is learn and
43:44 improve after every episode . So you could say Yeah
43:48 . Look , we took this . We decided we
43:50 were going thio use this approach to learning math ,
43:55 but we decided that we saw that didn't work well
43:58 , because the parents didn't understand that system of teaching
44:01 . And so now we've moved our focus . Who
44:03 is , you know , you were talking about earlier
44:05 history or humanities or something else . Look , we
44:09 took a chance with math that didn't work . No
44:12 problem . We're moving on to the next thing and
44:15 I give you this quote from Winston Churchill and he
44:17 said this , um never let a good crisis go
44:21 toe waste . And what did he mean by this
44:24 ? He meant this is an opportunity for you to
44:28 get a lot of things done . So if you
44:34 know So if you think that you needed to reorganize
44:39 a curriculum having nothing to do with co vid that
44:42 you thought this would have been a good idea ,
44:44 Maybe this is now the time to do that .
44:48 That you could take long term constructive actions that without
44:53 a crisis going on around you , you didn't have
44:56 the authority or the ability thio put in place .
45:03 But now you've got Mawr authority . You've got people
45:07 rallied around you , and you make these long term
45:12 beneficial decisions to fix things during this crisis , and
45:17 I just think it's a great management tool . You
45:20 know , Never let a good crisis go to waste
45:23 what you know , not just cope with the crisis
45:26 . But what are all the good things I can
45:28 do for my organization during this crisis ? Put them
45:32 in place so that when you come out of the
45:34 crisis , you're better off . Then you would have
45:38 otherwise been okay , vendor expertise . So I tell
45:45 this story , um , years ago I had a
45:48 job where I bought a lot of printing and I
45:53 mean , like , a lot like millions of dollars
45:55 worth of printing brochures , mailers , all kinds of
45:58 things . And I was shopping for printers . I'm
46:02 in New York . At that time , there were
46:04 big printing companies in New York . They're all gone
46:06 . Uh , now they won't move to other states
46:10 or , you know , some somewhere . But anyway
46:14 , um , I went around to various printing companies
46:18 and I came across this guy Felix and Felix Waas
46:23 a genius about printing . He knew all about it
46:28 . I showed him what we needed to dio and
46:31 right away he made suggestions that improved it , made
46:34 it less expensive , reduced our time during the printing
46:38 process , and delivery process . And I thought ,
46:42 you know , while Felix is just amazing and the
46:46 expertise and I'm getting the benefit of this expertise if
46:51 I use him as , ah printer . Well ,
46:54 there was one thing Felix was a pain in the
46:57 neck . He , um and I'm just being polite
47:00 in my language here . He was a pain he
47:02 was difficult to deal with . He wanted to socialize
47:06 with May . I didn't want to socialize with him
47:08 . He said , Let's go to ball games .
47:10 He wanted to go out drinking . I didn't want
47:12 to go out drinking , you know , and all
47:15 of this . And you know what ? I put
47:18 up with Felix because he saved us so much money
47:22 . He made this work so much better . And
47:25 I just remember this . He was just an overwhelming
47:29 example of the expertise that vendors have because they deal
47:35 with multiple companies and their specialists , and they deal
47:39 with this . So the bus company , the caterers
47:43 who , you know , supply the food for your
47:46 school . Um , you know , obviously we talked
47:50 about a lot of vendors of software and APS thes
47:56 people are experts . Then they're dealing with dozens and
47:59 hundreds of schools in your situation , and they're happy
48:03 to talk to you and so leverage that expertise ,
48:07 find it , asked them questions , get answers .
48:11 They're a great source of information and you can think
48:13 of . And maybe you don't want to spend the
48:15 time or you don't like them or you're afraid they're
48:18 gonna start pitching you their products . You know what
48:21 think of Felix is that it was worth it .
48:25 Whatever you had to do to put up with Felix
48:27 , it was worth it to get the help that
48:30 they could provide . So , you know , these
48:33 air organizations filled with experts on Duh . So anyway
48:40 , so you know , that's a I think a
48:42 valuable tool that's at your disposal costs you nothing except
48:46 your time . And if you come across somebody who's
48:49 a pain in the neck like Felix Oh , well
48:51 , it's worth it anyway . Okay , So a
48:56 couple of things here , I'm gonna go back in
48:59 a minute . But just to remind people , um
49:03 , if you want to get a credit , um
49:07 , c p e credits or professional development credits for
49:10 doing these webinars , we're happy to provide you with
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49:22 Just let us know . Um , all the videos
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49:39 . You're on your way to getting , uh ,
49:41 c p e credits . And let me I'm gonna
49:46 stop sharing for a second , and I'm going to
49:50 put it up again . Any other comments ? Crisis
49:56 management . Now this this has been this has been
50:03 helpful , you know ? Good , good points .
50:07 I like that . I can still access the slides
50:09 and use those because a lot of that stuff is
50:11 really good to steal from and use here at the
50:14 school . Steel ? That's right , PDP . So
50:21 Oh , I didn't mean to interrupt to David .
50:23 Sorry I had I just want to let everybody know
50:28 that we had Lou Most learning do have We can
50:31 help you to provide for you staff development , different
50:34 types we can make available . And we also partner
50:37 with other people's as well . So if you need
50:40 help in something like that , please reach out to
50:43 us . We have all kinds of solutions , not
50:46 just our online products . Of course , they're awesome
50:49 as well . But one little note I wanted to
50:52 say is , um that you would consider to the
50:59 fact that different ages react differently . But then they're
51:03 all they're all Children at heart anyway . And we
51:06 can't change what happens at home , but we can
51:09 change everything within the school environment . And I think
51:12 , David , that's one of your biggest challenges right
51:14 now is being able to do that online . So
51:17 I wish you the best of luck , sir .
51:19 And all of the educators Valerie Yuhas Well , and
51:22 everyone attending and again , Dr Rogoff , thank you
51:24 for letting me be a part of this group today
51:27 . Thank you . Know , Bonnie , you're you're
51:29 fantastic . So Bonnie is a perfect example of one
51:33 of these people who's who's a great expert on all
51:36 these subjects . Has a lot to offer . And
51:39 unlike Felix , you're a pleasure to deal with .
51:42 So , uh , so I'm Southern . Y'all I
51:49 call everybody sweetheart , Darling , sugar and honey .
51:54 Uh huh . Yeah . Humor people popularity to it
51:59 didn't include any of those words . Yeah , that's
52:04 awesome . Okay , alright . Anyone else to get
52:08 to get the P . D . P . S
52:09 ? We just take the quizzes . That's how you
52:11 get professional development points . Yes . What's the Yeah
52:15 , Yeah , If you have any issue with it
52:17 , just reach out to us . But I think
52:20 that's that's it . This is It depends on the
52:22 organization that's giving you the credits . You know ,
52:25 they have different rules , so but yeah , but
52:30 you know Well , man , you know , if
52:32 it turns out to be an issue , we'll manage
52:34 through it with you , so e appreciate . Okay
52:39 . Thank you all very , very much . Thank
52:41 you , David , for participating Bonnie for participating .
52:44 Uh , you know it , Z um you know
52:49 , anyway , been great . And thank you very
52:53 much , Mukunda . Thank you very much for ,
52:56 you know , for sponsoring Well , this toe happen
52:58 . Alright , Stay healthy . Everybody from you too
53:02 . Thank you so much for doing this . It
53:05 was very helpful .
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