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Session 6: The Fully Informed Administrator - Planning Return to School - By Lumos Learning

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00:0-1	uh , All right , everybody , welcome to our
00:04	sixth symposium Webinar session . We're happy tohave have you
00:13	on Bond . I got to say it's been a
00:16	, you know , been a good run for us
00:19	of meeting a lot of people hearing your comments ,
00:25	I think , providing some useful information on we're gonna
00:28	try to do all of that . Uh , today
00:33	as well . Um , so we're going to talk
00:39	about planning to return to school on . I got
00:43	to tell you , I'm not exactly certain what that
00:45	means . In today's world where schools open and then
00:52	closed . Two days later , they open . They
00:54	have closed two days later . Onda . Actually ,
00:57	we've tried to make today's session relevant to these sort
01:00	of fast changing issues that need to be dealt with
01:05	. And I hope you all will talk about ,
01:07	um , talk about managing these rapidly shifting requirements .
01:15	So I'm gonna I'm gonna roll through a few issues
01:19	to kick this off , and then we're going Thio
01:25	, open it up . A number of people have
01:26	already volunteered . So the challenges of working in this
01:31	environment first and foremost scheduling , you know , what
01:34	is your calendar look like ? How do you set
01:36	up calendars for students . How do you manage small
01:40	classes ? Half classes alternating classes . The teacher to
01:46	student ratios Change now . And how do you manage
01:51	this when basically , the number of teachers , the
01:53	number of students is the same . But now you're
01:56	changing the constraints on section size and meeting times ,
02:01	bus schedules , getting students to school and home .
02:06	Um , obviously last year's bus schedule . Not not
02:12	going to accommodate this the the continuity between remote and
02:17	classroom learning . So when co vid first hit ,
02:22	we all completely online , and now we're going somewhere
02:27	in between . So now you need to manage this
02:30	continuity . Does your curriculum match up ? Is the
02:34	online learning that you want the students to do ?
02:38	The correct thing , given what you're trying to do
02:40	in class , is classroom learning supporting the remote learning
02:44	or vice versa . How is the teacher viewing this
02:48	, um , common areas such as cafeterias would be
02:53	closed . So this actually changes the social dynamic .
02:58	It changes what you're doing with students . Do they
03:01	bring their lunch ? Do they sit in in a
03:04	class ? Do they sit in a gym 6 ft
03:06	apart ? You know , I have lunch or snack
03:10	? Um , you know , complications are you doing
03:13	? Daily health checks for staff and students temperatures or
03:17	covert testing ? What kind of covert testing ? When
03:20	do they get the results ? What rules ? For
03:24	when you don't allow someone to come in . And
03:26	then if you find out they're positive Now , what
03:28	do you do ? And enormous challenge . Unplanned closures
03:35	due to positive results . So this leads to this
03:39	problem , which I'm sure you've all thought off .
03:42	Is that a student test Positive or staff member test
03:47	positive . You're supposed if you're going by the book
03:51	, you are , um , going to quarantine them
03:55	and everyone they've come in contact with for 14 days
03:59	. Um , if you quarantine your teacher for 14
04:02	days , who takes his or her classes ? If
04:05	, uh if you quarantine the student , do you
04:08	quarantine ? The entire class asked you quarantine all the
04:11	classes the students been in , all the students who
04:13	have been on the bus anyway , it's I only
04:17	have questions . Okay , So hybrid model . Um
04:21	, you know , just this I think people have
04:23	seen this is a cool visual of it . S
04:28	o assumes assumes that you're Onley gonna have 50% of
04:32	your students on campus in your in your school at
04:35	any given time , and you're maintaining 6 ft social
04:39	distancing while they're in the school buildings and they alternate
04:43	between in person and remote learning during the week so
04:47	you could do it a bunch of different ways ,
04:49	right on Group A , you know , Monday ,
04:52	Wednesday they do us . They come to school Tuesday
04:55	, Thursday , Friday , and on the weekend .
04:57	They do it like they do remote . You could
04:59	do it . You could alternate the other days for
05:04	a different group , and then you can have distance
05:08	. Uh , you know , distance learning Onley where
05:10	they're all staying online . Um , other options .
05:15	You can have the half days be in the morning
05:17	, so one group comes in the morning . You
05:20	have a lunch break again , not in the cafeteria
05:23	. You have the afternoon group and you can do
05:27	this shift scheduling . And so basically , um ,
05:32	you know , group comes in Mondays and Wednesdays or
05:38	you do down here just one day a week with
05:41	group comes in on Monday . Groupie comes in on
05:43	Tuesday , etcetera . So again , a bunch of
05:47	options the teachers get a planning day . Obviously ,
05:51	this requires a lot more planning on the part of
05:54	teachers and a lot , I think a lot more
05:57	record keeping on the part of teachers . Eso course
06:01	subjects our focus for in person instruction . So this
06:06	is really where the students they put the teachers move
06:11	around ? Um , S o you know , they
06:17	sit in their class . The teacher , the first
06:19	of science teacher comes in done . Math teacher comes
06:23	in done . English language arts done , social studies
06:28	done . Student gets on the bus . Glad their
06:31	home or option for is all kinds mixing and matching
06:37	this , uh , you know , any various different
06:41	ways , Onda . Of course , there's this whole
06:44	issue of pods which , you know you've heard of
06:48	of students in the home base setting , staying home
06:54	, working with other students . Everyone's been tested and
06:59	they're working together in small groups under supervision . They
07:04	could do that . Supervision at home . They can
07:06	also do that supervised pod thing in school . So
07:11	planning timelines , um , planning timelines . So distance
07:16	learning , distance learning . This is , you know
07:19	, sort of a how how this changes within phases
07:23	, distance learning with students supports hybrid learning . Uh
07:27	, targeted students supports hybrid learning and a rotating schedule
07:32	. And then the ultimate on this continuum a return
07:38	Thio in person . So we've got returned to in
07:42	person Is the extreme over here ? Distance learning the
07:45	extreme where the students never come to school and three
07:49	potential phases Uh , in between . Okay , Body
07:56	. Who's incredibly well informed . Experienced . Um And
08:02	I would say , um uh , clear . Uh
08:07	, I would say that's a little bit of a
08:08	way of saying blunt , uh , in a good
08:11	way . Bonnie , what do you think of all
08:13	this ? Thanks , Dr Rogoff . First of all
08:17	, my name is Bonnie McCrae . I'm a retired
08:20	school administrator . I currently work as an education consultant
08:25	for Lou . Most learning as well have been doing
08:27	that for the past five years . I have experienced
08:31	with my daughter in law this past spring , uh
08:35	, moved in tow , live with her and my
08:37	son for a while . And she was a high
08:41	school teacher . The kids had to have her course
08:44	, and all of a sudden the schools closed .
08:47	They were required to have her course in order to
08:49	graduate . She was just totally stressed . She is
08:53	an awesome teachers , generally works in at risk situations
08:57	, and she is in one of the very few
08:59	still year round schools here in Texas . I found
09:02	that she stayed up late at night . She worked
09:06	incessantly during the day . Many of her students were
09:10	taking on part time jobs because their families were in
09:13	a financial bind , so it was almost impossible for
09:17	her to reach the students . She was having zoom
09:20	classroom meetings at least 2 to 3 times a week
09:23	, having group meetings with administrators and staff and still
09:27	trying to reach out to the kids . Some of
09:29	the kids had packets . Some of them worked online
09:31	. Some of them did the hybrid . What she
09:35	found was that she was not only trying to contact
09:38	the students , but she was trying to contact parents
09:41	, step parents , grand parents , aunts and uncles
09:44	. Anything she could And I had to say ,
09:47	Bless her heart . She got it done . But
09:49	that was the most trying few months for her .
09:52	They have already started back up online , and they
09:56	have schedules Now . The stress levels that they're experiencing
10:00	aren't nearest great , but they're still there because these
10:03	teachers want to have that personal relationship with the students
10:08	. They're trying to do it online because some of
10:10	their football team members tested positive so the sports had
10:15	to stop practicing that , and she's a cheerleader .
10:18	Coaches well , so she had to stop that .
10:20	What they're doing is having their zoom classroom meetings where
10:25	the students sign on , and when the teacher is
10:28	finished , the teacher signs off and the next teacher
10:31	comes on . To me , this seems to be
10:34	working a little more effectively , except that they're stressed
10:37	for time because they may want to talk a few
10:39	more minutes . A few more students may have extra
10:42	questions about that daily assignment , so it's still causing
10:45	stress . I am the other hand and put in
10:48	a personal situation where I now live with my granddaughter
10:51	and two great grandchildren in the school district I live
10:55	in now . It will be starting up next Monday
10:59	. There will be a meet the Teacher Night this
11:01	Thursday night , where we'll walk through like a parade
11:04	to go through the building . Of course , wearing
11:07	masks to pick up our chromebooks are hi fi hotspots
11:12	that their WiFi hotspots that they're giving to the students
11:17	and our school supplies will be furnished by the district
11:20	. It will be at home for all students for
11:23	the first at least three weeks of school . Then
11:26	determinations will be made if some students can , on
11:30	their own voluntarily , with parents approval , come back
11:33	to school . Or should they choose to stay at
11:36	home . My concern with this is we have a
11:40	pre K four year old and bless her heart .
11:45	She's our Tasmanian devil . I don't see her sitting
11:48	in front of a computer , even with me being
11:50	the at home teacher , which I have a master's
11:52	degree in all kinds of certifications out the wazoo ,
11:56	and I have to go to an online webinar to
11:58	learn how to teach at home . It's really stressful
12:02	for parents , though I'm not as stressed . I
12:05	can handle this . No biggie , but so many
12:08	parents have to work . I know our next door
12:10	Neighbors here have two Children who are the same age
12:14	as my great grand babies , and both parents work
12:18	right now . Their grandmother takes care of them ,
12:20	but she's only speak Spanish , so she can't be
12:23	helping them . It will not work , but they
12:26	do not want their Children back in school , so
12:28	they're facing that dilemma Now . My second grade great
12:31	granddaughter , she loves being on the computer , so
12:34	I'll have to probably tell her it's time to get
12:36	off . But if I were right now in the
12:40	education field on a campus at his administrator and I've
12:44	taught everything from kindergarten through college , I know that
12:47	I would be stressed . Many of my cohorts from
12:50	years past chose this summer to retire because they said
12:54	, Bonnie , we're just not going to do this
12:57	. But I need to applaud And I think we
12:59	all do Dr Rogoff , all of the educators for
13:01	giving that extra time , extra effort and enthusiasm ,
13:06	and that's what we need to focus on . How
13:08	could we keep that enthusiasm up as we move forward
13:12	looking over your different hybrid learning situations ? If I
13:17	were an administrator right now in a campus , I'd
13:20	really like option number three . And the reason for
13:23	that is it gives that Friday to the teachers because
13:28	, let's face it , we've got to have the
13:29	teachers support in order for this to work . If
13:32	we have teachers that air so stressed or like Oh
13:35	, here I go again , I gotta learn this
13:36	. I'm gonna do this . They're not going toe
13:39	make an effort . And if they don't make a
13:41	nef ERT that's going to overflow to the students .
13:44	A swell . So I really like that option where
13:46	kids go to school one day they do at home
13:50	, online . The next day , back and forth
13:53	in the Friday is the Teachers Day for planning because
13:56	, let's face it , online planning and face to
13:59	face planning , that's going to take a lot of
14:02	extra effort . I do applaud everyone for everything that
14:06	they're doing , and I hope that it goes well
14:11	for all . I want to be there as a
14:13	support system , because that's what I feel like .
14:16	I am now for teachers and educators . So if
14:19	anyone needs or wants extra help or says Bonnie ,
14:22	can you help me just plan this or what are
14:24	your suggestions for raising self esteem ? I'd be more
14:27	than happy to help him . Thank you again ,
14:29	Dr Rogoff , for the opportunity to visit Bonnie .
14:36	You're brilliant . Really ? No . It's like ,
14:38	you know , the wisdom of of experience . Um
14:43	, you know , I have to say , I
14:45	have not heard this , um , this example where
14:51	the student is hard to reach because he or she
14:55	has toe work . But of course you said it
14:58	. I thought , you know This obviously affects a
15:00	lot of people . Particularly older , you know ,
15:03	high school students and such , but yeah , it's
15:05	a you know , it's a tremendous point and yeah
15:09	, so thank you , Bonnie . Thank you very
15:11	much . And please , uh , as we go
15:13	along , police continue to speak up David for here
15:19	. So I wanna welcome you . Um I'm hoping
15:23	you can tell us about your experience . What ?
15:27	You How you think you're gonna proceed from this point
15:32	? Hi , everybody . How we doing ? Can
15:37	you hear me ? No . Yeah , OK ,
15:40	so here in limits , the mass , Um ,
15:46	it's still day to day . The left hand doesn't
15:49	know what the right hand's gonna dio . We do
15:52	have somewhat of a plan we put together with the
15:56	help of downtown . We have , ah , professional
15:59	development days set up for August 26 27 28 .
16:03	You can see where hens hens a lot of writing
16:06	a lot of scratching going on , but we've not
16:11	we but the district has decided to open us up
16:15	remotely . Ah , full remote . No hybrid .
16:22	We are a comprehensive high school . So we have
16:24	a vocational component which adds some more difficulty to it
16:28	because vocational students need hands on hours in order to
16:32	get certified in the area that they choose , whether
16:34	it's carpentry , culinary electron , electrician's whatever it is
16:39	. Eso they go back and forth all day .
16:40	They take courses over there they're doing their hands on
16:43	, and then there academics at the high school .
16:46	And then we have kids that are just strictly academic
16:48	at the high school . So it's we have two
16:50	principles in the building . One for the trade ,
16:53	one for the high school . We have two assistant
16:54	principals at the high school and an assistant principal for
16:56	the trade school . So it's kind of complicated a
16:59	lot of moving parts , but we make it work
17:01	. It is very successful . This , however ,
17:03	is throwing a wrench into it . We don't know
17:04	how they're going to get there their hours in that
17:07	they're required . Um , how do I say avoid
17:13	voicemail ? There we go . Sorry . Phones ringing
17:16	. Um , so we're working even today we're trying
17:19	to figure out , you know , questions and answers
17:21	for our teachers were trying to come up with Google
17:22	classroom Training's . We've asked our staff anybody that would
17:27	like to lead a PD session of 45 minutes 45
17:30	minute block thes a couple of weeks leading upto when
17:33	school starts , we'd like toe put you down whether
17:37	you're a beginner and intermediate or an expert and offer
17:40	zoom meetings because everything's gonna be virtual all of our
17:42	meetings to start the school year are gonna be virtual
17:45	, so principle will speak as to what the expectations
17:48	are and what not for everybody . And it's all
17:51	gonna be done either via Zoom or Google meets .
17:55	Um , the union and superintendent's office and human resource
18:02	is have all decided teachers won't even be coming back
18:05	into that . They're not expected back in the building
18:07	until october 5th . Um , so they're going to
18:12	be working remote . A lot of the kids that
18:15	are in the trade school are gonna be using ingenuity
18:19	as their remote learning , and then they're gonna that
18:22	they're thinking of trying to get them back into the
18:24	building at the end of September to get their hands
18:27	on . So they're weak where their hands on in
18:29	the trades will be in the building . And then
18:33	there were all their academics we've done remotely through ingenuity
18:37	. So honestly , it's it's difficult from the state
18:42	all the way down . This is uncharted territory for
18:45	everybody . Nobody knows what we're gonna run into .
18:50	You mentioned a lot of things right here at the
18:51	beginning . When a kid gets sick , what happens
18:54	? This kid was diagnosed . He's got it that
18:55	we shut the school down , that we close the
18:57	classroom , that we shut a wing down . We
18:59	came up with a hybrid schedule . They sent out
19:01	a survey . 87% of the families wanted to do
19:05	the hybrid model . But the school committee decided full
19:09	remote . So that created another uproar . And we've
19:13	just been spiraling . So to say that we're prepared
19:17	, we'll figure it out . But we don't have
19:21	any definitive answers . But we're going with where we're
19:23	at right now , because as it stands , the
19:26	students are supposed to be back learning . Our commissioner
19:30	of education for the state said what went on from
19:33	March to Joan ain't gonna happen again because we went
19:38	into this . We were told from our superintendent ,
19:41	prepare for a couple of weeks of remote learning when
19:44	the covert crisis was growing that two weeks turned into
19:49	the rest of the year . People have lost their
19:51	jobs . We've had 168 teacher layoffs in the largest
19:55	school district , Which is ridiculous . Um , some
19:59	of them are coming back . Some of them are
20:01	not . Um so with those layoffs now and we're
20:06	talking about class sizes , the numbers don't don't jive
20:11	right now . I just got a list here .
20:13	I've just handed a list of all these students that
20:17	I have to go through , and we have 1900
20:19	students here in lemon stuff . So I'm going through
20:22	all the history students to make sure that they got
20:25	their classes . If they have holds in their schedules
20:27	, I have to fix them . We've had to
20:28	change our schedule . We had a seven period rotating
20:31	schedule . It's now gonna be five periods . We've
20:34	eliminated most of the electives . There was a talk
20:38	of going from eliminating us all the history classes and
20:42	going to humanity's . But they scrapped that , which
20:45	I'm grateful for . So we still have a history
20:47	on our English classes . They're going to combine those
20:50	that didn't happen . So we're looking at Yeah ,
20:55	Back to school . Wednesday , August 26th , right
20:59	up until September 11th . So first six days of
21:04	school will be like a we normally have a big
21:08	meeting with the whole school district in our auditorium at
21:11	the high school . Well , that's the capacity of
21:14	that . That room has gone from 1064 to 64
21:19	. Eso we won't be . Everything's gonna be virtual
21:22	, so it's gonna be different . We're thinking about
21:24	going downtown . We have local access , television tape
21:27	, some of the stuff that we want to get
21:28	out there so they can run it . People can
21:30	look it up on a YouTube video or zoom or
21:33	, you know , whatever . Whatever media we're going
21:35	to use , um , Google classroom training again .
21:40	That's the biggie . Have people lead it themselves ?
21:43	We have the district's gonna be leading some classrooms training
21:46	they have down here navigating Google classroom intro to Google
21:50	slides using Google forms . Google meets Google screen casting
21:56	. I'm just reading off these chats all the all
21:58	the stuff , But I guess so cut and dry
22:07	. We're going full remote teaches are not expected to
22:10	be back in the building till October 5th . If
22:14	they don't feel safe to come back , they have
22:16	to notify human re sources and give them the reasons
22:20	as to why they don't feel safe coming back in
22:22	that will be worked out between human resource is and
22:24	the individual teachers eso . In the meantime , the
22:27	building is open . We're here every day . Teachers
22:30	are allowed to come in . If they want to
22:31	come in and work in their classroom , that's fine
22:34	. But they are expected to have a five period
22:37	day and the periods laid out . They're gonna be
22:42	50 50 minutes or 55 minute periods . Five of
22:44	them a day . Um , they won't begin until
22:47	about 9 . 30 . So , like , 7
22:49	. 20 to 9 . 30 is teacher planning time
22:53	every day than 9 . 30 to 10 . 25
23:00	10 , 30 to 11 . 25 . Then we're
23:03	gonna have a lunch in there , but they can't
23:04	eat in the cafeteria . They'll take turns eating in
23:07	their classrooms . We're gonna try to platoon them like
23:09	you saw in one of the hybrid models . You
23:11	go in this classroom and either stay in that classroom
23:14	and the teachers rotate to try to keep that down
23:17	. But we want to keep a much interaction of
23:20	the students assed possible to not to not happen .
23:24	We want to keep the kids separate . Yeah ,
23:26	uh , question . Sure . I'm sorry . What
23:31	What's the How are you handling grading during tests and
23:34	grading during this period . So all the expectations of
23:38	being spelled up from district level people . So we
23:42	have We have people downtown , um , telling us
23:47	, you know , these the expectations , tests and
23:51	quizzes way have to take attendance every day . So
23:55	attendance has to be taken . So the teachers ,
23:57	they're gonna what they're gonna they're gonna log on ,
23:59	they're gonna have a Google classroom from , you know
24:02	, 9 30 toe 10 . 25 . And the
24:05	kids have to log into that room , and the
24:07	teacher will take attendance on the computer using our aspen
24:10	software . But they're already saying downtown if the student
24:14	says , Hey , I'm not gonna be there Thursday
24:18	, I can't be in the classroom . Can you
24:19	send me the work for that day so that I
24:21	could get it done ? That that's check ? Yes
24:23	, that student was here , so I got a
24:30	Yeah , we don't even have our oil answers yet
24:32	, and it's everybody's . Everybody's anxious . Everybody's anxious
24:37	, it's the it's still a work in progress .
24:40	And we're only a week away from having people back
24:43	for virtual meetings . And I don't I can't stand
24:45	you know nothing . I hate more than going into
24:48	a meeting and not being able to answer the questions
24:51	that people are gonna ask on and not so it's
24:55	a It's an anxious time . We're gonna figure it
24:57	out . In the meantime , students schedules and even
25:00	done , we're still working on student student schedules .
25:04	And every day it's like something changes . And I
25:08	don't know . Do you think push comes to shove
25:11	? I mean , just trying t o see the
25:13	future that some percentage of students will get will just
25:18	be lost to you ? Absolutely . Absolutely . What
25:22	do you think That not ? What do you think
25:23	that percentage would be ? We were in a in
25:30	a district that has a lot of diversity and a
25:34	lot of low income people . And a lot of
25:36	these kids do work . They're gonna be out working
25:39	and they got little brothers and sisters . Or they
25:41	got three people at home , all with a chromebook
25:45	trying to log on to their first grade class ,
25:47	their fifth grade class , their eighth grade class .
25:50	I don't know . I mean , we just they
25:51	just spent a lot of money to buy every student
25:55	a chromebook here at the high school just for the
25:57	remote learning . Because when we went remote last year
26:00	, we were scrambling trying to get kids . Chromebooks
26:02	. They were given Chromebooks up in June . I
26:03	mean , and we ended in the June , so
26:08	there's a lot of unknowns and everything was smooth sailing
26:12	. But I think we gotta figure out a way
26:15	and figured out quick because I think this is gonna
26:17	be the future . E think we're gonna be a
26:20	lot . There's gonna be a lot more online learning
26:23	with what's going on . Do you know what I
26:25	mean ? I see the mask was hanging around for
26:27	a while . Yeah , No , I think you're
26:30	right . But I am . I'm concerned . You
26:32	know , I was that the gentleman we have from
26:37	Essex County , Um , Essex down in New Jersey
26:42	. Superintendent there , Peterson . Mr . Peterson ,
26:46	I believe Yeah , Yeah . Dr . Peterson .
26:48	Yeah . You know , he has some great ideas
26:51	, and they were even talking about bringing the kids
26:53	back with , you know , special that needed special
26:56	ed services , bringing them back early . We'll get
27:00	them in the building and spread them out . There's
27:02	plenty of room , and I thought that was a
27:03	great idea , but there's no talk of that here
27:06	. And and we're We've lost so many people have
27:08	been laid off a lot of them . A special
27:09	ed people . So now you know , our special
27:14	ed coordinator is talking to the lawyer about , you
27:16	know , civil rights violations . If you don't have
27:19	enough staff to meet the needs of these kids ,
27:21	it's just every day . It's something else , you
27:23	know . Yeah . Wow . All right , well
27:25	, thank you very much . I can't say it's
27:27	a You know , it's a beautiful picture , but
27:30	it's the It's the truth . So it's nice to
27:33	talk to somebody about it because you gotta be careful
27:36	who you talk to around here . Yeah . Okay
27:39	, good . Thank you so much . Thank you
27:42	. Ok , carry . Are you Are you on
27:46	the call ? I didn't see your name . Okay
27:55	, on Jan has been with us before . Are
27:59	you on the call ? I don't think so ,
28:02	either . Okay . Valerie , I'm here . Valerie
28:11	. Okay . So what is your experience ? What
28:15	are you coping with it ? The moment . How
28:17	are you managing this shift to an unknown future ?
28:24	Well , right now what we're doing , we are
28:26	training teachers . Uh , on google meet Google hurt
28:32	somebody just mentioned it . Google attendants . So we're
28:36	training them on Google attendance . Google classroom bit emoji
28:40	were training . You're trying to get them trained .
28:43	School starts next week . Um , we're going to
28:48	school . Will be open Monday , Tuesday and Thursday
28:53	from 7 . 30 but not 7 . 30 from
28:57	seven o'clock to 12 . 30 on those days .
29:02	And the other days are for planning of Wednesday .
29:05	Friday , we're gonna plant and students will eat lunch
29:10	in the classroom And once they leave school on their
29:15	way out the door , uh , they would take
29:17	lunch with them . Can you hear me ? Yes
29:20	. Okay . On their way out the door ,
29:22	they would take lunch . The the bus . We're
29:25	gonna have bus monitors , so they're gonna have a
29:28	lunch on the bus and they would pass it out
29:30	to the students as they get off the bus .
29:34	So right now , that's what we have in place
29:36	. And we're gonna meet this afternoon at three o'clock
29:40	and I found out mawr what we're going to do
29:43	on next week . Do do all of your students
29:48	have chromebooks ? Yes , they all have Chromebooks .
29:54	And were you ? And in the spring you were
29:58	you were using that system you were using Google classroom
30:02	for , you know . And this spring we were
30:06	doing the package . The parents would come to the
30:09	school and we would meet them outside . They will
30:12	call it in school . And we would take the
30:15	package outside to them and that we would do this
30:17	each week . I see . And and now you'll
30:22	replace the paper with with something on the chromebook or
30:27	not , You'll still dio will replace the paper with
30:30	something on the chromebook . But we also they're also
30:33	gonna be in school to on Monday , Tuesday and
30:36	Thursday . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah .
30:40	What ? What are your teachers saying about this system
30:45	right now ? Well , just they're not saying anything
30:50	native about it . They were just getting prepared by
30:55	training them . Um , with Google , Google meet
31:00	in Google classroom . Yeah , yeah , yeah ,
31:06	I've heard he wants anything . *** . Yeah ,
31:09	And have you have you is grating an issue ,
31:14	or are you in this system , or has that
31:16	been a smooth transition ? Excuse me . In here
31:20	. What you see , grading what Howard teachers supposed
31:25	to handle grading and tests during this period . Do
31:29	the tests in class and they're gonna have to come
31:32	and do the test in place . Yeah . Yeah
31:36	. Okay . But we're working on that . We
31:39	have a I know they're gonna call me in to
31:42	do the class test and class , but I don't
31:44	know how is going to be scheduled ? We haven't
31:48	talked about that , but there are going to come
31:51	to the school to do the test . Yeah .
31:54	You know , I think one thing that occurs to
31:57	me is that , you know , compared to David
32:01	in , uh , Massachusetts , which is going entirely
32:05	online for a little while is that when students are
32:09	coming to the building , some things get resolved .
32:13	And obviously , um , you know , attendance becomes
32:18	more , you know , more clear and being to
32:22	give tests on DSO certain kinds of assignments becomes easier
32:28	. So yeah , that's definitely an advantage of hybrid
32:33	over completely , completely online . Yeah . Any other
32:40	issues that you feel your coping with at this point
32:45	? No , um , I shared with my principal
32:49	. Yeah , I think it was on last week
32:51	about the fun Friday . Um , and we're planning
32:56	on trying that mhm awarding them . So Okay ,
33:05	but no . No way . Valerie , thank you
33:08	so much for sharing your experience with us on .
33:12	Duh . You know . Best of luck as this
33:15	seeds . Okay , Thank you . Welcome . So
33:21	let me go . Few other you know , issues
33:24	and invite everyone to comment at any point . Eso
33:30	you know , here's what Busses look like . This
33:33	is obviously one of the ager , um , stumbling
33:37	blocks . Ah , going from non socially distance to
33:42	socially distanced is that if you're really gonna socially distance
33:48	, the capacity is drastically reduced here . Almost 90%
33:52	if you sort of socially distance . Um , your
33:56	at least reducing it by 50% . And this book
34:00	comes , you know , a major chokepoint in your
34:04	ability to run classes on DVI just to apply that
34:09	same sort of thinking to classrooms . Um , you
34:13	could say that if you are giving students three feeds
34:16	of personal space and you're giving them 6 ft of
34:20	social separation , you're reducing the capacity of 1000 square
34:25	foot classroom from 31 the 12 . So the idea
34:30	that I think which you've heard a lot in the
34:32	media of all this cuts the classroom capacity in half
34:36	. It doesn't . It cuts it by more than
34:38	two thirds and s Oh , this is a major
34:43	issue Thio deal with , um , other safety protocol
34:47	, you know , issues . Temperature checks for everyone
34:51	entering the building . This also becomes a just in
34:53	terms of the the flow of people through the system
34:58	becomes a chokepoint , slows everything up . Are you
35:03	going to maintain social distancing with students online waiting to
35:08	have their temperature taken , Wipe downs of commonly handled
35:14	objects such as faucets and door handles . You know
35:19	who's doing this ? Um , Is the regular maintenance
35:23	staff doing it ? Have you increased the maintenance staff
35:25	? Not so easy to dio , um , his
35:29	hand sanitizer accessible to everyone who's gonna keep it stocked
35:34	and replaced . Are there paper towels in the room
35:37	, toe wipe down desks and and bleach solution to
35:42	clean things ? Um , do you have ah ,
35:45	staggered schedule that allows this toe work or that interferes
35:50	with this working as students ? Um , you know
35:54	, you say Okay , we're gonna go on a
35:56	B A schedule . Welcome enough . Students get to
35:59	the classroom on time to make that schedule work .
36:04	Um , are you going to do health training for
36:07	students to be aware of the symptoms of co vid
36:12	or of flu ? You know , which , of
36:14	course , we haven't talked about much , but which
36:16	is also in the offing . Here , um ,
36:19	have you the building added signage for physical distance marking
36:24	? And whose enforcing this is this the Is this
36:28	the teacher's job ? Uh , teachers , you know
36:32	, have enough to do . And , you know
36:34	, they don't like being police and s . You
36:37	know , that's a difficult question . I think our
36:41	guidelines and information packets available . Is there printed information
36:47	that students can take home , show their parents ,
36:50	you know , learn what the new system is commit
36:54	to being , uh , toe honoring it and doing
36:57	it . This is , uh , complicated . And
37:03	I think certainly with younger kids , you know ,
37:06	having to maintain social distance by itself is a major
37:10	challenge . So let me back up for a second
37:14	. You're dealing with a rolling Siris of crises ,
37:20	a rolling Siris of crisis . So you get these
37:23	one after another . So this has been studied as
37:27	an organizational phenomenon . And let me talk about it
37:31	just for a few minutes . So what's a crisis
37:35	? It's something that's disruptive and unexpected . So I
37:39	think where we are is disrupted on Onyx back then
37:44	. Right ? So this is this . There's erupted
37:47	, but unexpected event . This is Cove in 19
37:51	that threatens to harm the organization or its stakeholders .
37:55	And this obviously reaches beyond students , students , parents
37:59	, administrators , teachers , everybody . And that's what
38:03	a crisis is . So what's crisis management ? So
38:09	, generally speaking , it's these steps and let's just
38:13	go through them , identify what it is you assess
38:18	it , you understand it . Now you're running into
38:21	problems because we're still learning so much about how cove
38:26	it works , what its risks are . We come
38:29	up , you know , we decide how we're going
38:31	to cope with it . Social distancing , hand washing
38:36	barriers , um , etcetera . And now we have
38:40	a strategy that we apply . And this is the
38:45	stage . You're you all are at your in this
38:48	applying this , uh , strategy and and then you
38:54	have recovery procedures afterwards . And we talked about this
38:58	some with this , you know , socio emotional issues
39:02	. When it's all said and done , you just
39:04	don't go back to the beginning and start everything's back
39:07	to normal . You have to deal with how what's
39:10	the recovery ? You know who didn't receive education during
39:14	this period who's suffered emotionally during this period , who's
39:17	managing grief , whether they be students or teachers or
39:21	any member of your community ? Um and So ,
39:27	um and this begins to look like something we talked
39:31	about in an earlier session . So if you remember
39:36	, I said management is a three step process setting
39:40	goals , man setting goals , monitoring results and giving
39:46	feedback , setting goals , monitoring results and giving feedback
39:51	. Now , this begins , toe look like that
39:53	cycle we're gonna diagnosis , we're gonna plan we're gonna
39:57	implement . Each unit needs its own plan . You
40:02	need to debrief . That's this monitor what's going on
40:07	? And you need to start the cycle again ,
40:10	right ? You need to make changes and repeat it
40:12	. Learn from what you've done . What's working with
40:15	doesn't work , and testing and simulations are great tools
40:21	toe lead to future success . So simulations even this
40:26	to go back a second here , even This is
40:29	a simulation , right ? We're drawing a bust ,
40:32	and we're saying , Let's simulate what a bus looks
40:35	like if we apply , this rule was simulate what
40:38	a bus looks like . If we apply that rule
40:41	, that's a simulation . And you could do this
40:44	with , uh , with planning tests with managing ,
40:53	you know , students with managing teacher training . So
40:57	this is this process . Don't think of it of
41:01	just coping from minute to minute , short term .
41:04	See it in a bigger picture as a cycle .
41:08	And it's this cycle of management applied to this specific
41:14	situation where you've got these these threatening , um ,
41:21	threatening issues that you have to minimize their impact .
41:26	Okay , So good crisis management leaders , they build
41:30	trust through candor . You know , you gotta be
41:32	honest . Once you've lost , um , people's trust
41:38	. Once you lost your credibility as a leader ,
41:42	you've lost everything . Once you've lost their trust in
41:48	you , once they don't see it was a credible
41:51	person . You've lost everything . So , yeah ,
41:54	you've got a lot of bad news to give out
41:56	, right ? I mean , so David talked about
41:59	Well , we'd like to be able to do this
42:01	, but we've had 140 layoffs . We're gonna Yeah
42:05	. And without it , you know , you can't
42:08	not talk about it , right ? You gotta admit
42:11	it . And I'm sorry , David . Go ahead
42:15	. No , no , I'm just I'm agreeing with
42:17	you . I'm sorry . Okay . It's okay .
42:19	Um , you've got to create a culture and a
42:22	mindset that we're in this boat together , you know
42:26	? And we're tryingto figure out a way to cope
42:29	with this , uh , together . And that we're
42:32	a team and we've got this opponent and we're managing
42:37	against this opponent . And the stronger the opponent is
42:42	, the stronger our bonds to each other and our
42:45	willingness to help each other should be You need to
42:48	find your weak spots and protect them the best you
42:52	can . You're in battle . You gotta find what
42:55	are the vulnerable areas and take take , uh ,
42:58	you know , take action . Thio . Protect them
43:02	. Maybe it's a certain kind of teaching experience .
43:05	Maybe it's some of the athletic programs . Maybe it's
43:08	students of a certain type . Maybe it's special ed
43:12	students . You know , Maybe it's ah , students
43:15	. Um , you know who come from a certain
43:18	areas , neighborhoods or ages . Whatever . What are
43:23	your sort of hot spots that need to be most
43:26	protected ? Be decisive and prepared to take risks .
43:31	You cannot make the right decision every time and you
43:35	will be blamed . So just be ready for that
43:39	. You know , you're gonna do the best you
43:41	can . And what you can do is learn and
43:44	improve after every episode . So you could say Yeah
43:48	. Look , we took this . We decided we
43:50	were going thio use this approach to learning math ,
43:55	but we decided that we saw that didn't work well
43:58	, because the parents didn't understand that system of teaching
44:01	. And so now we've moved our focus . Who
44:03	is , you know , you were talking about earlier
44:05	history or humanities or something else . Look , we
44:09	took a chance with math that didn't work . No
44:12	problem . We're moving on to the next thing and
44:15	I give you this quote from Winston Churchill and he
44:17	said this , um never let a good crisis go
44:21	toe waste . And what did he mean by this
44:24	? He meant this is an opportunity for you to
44:28	get a lot of things done . So if you
44:34	know So if you think that you needed to reorganize
44:39	a curriculum having nothing to do with co vid that
44:42	you thought this would have been a good idea ,
44:44	Maybe this is now the time to do that .
44:48	That you could take long term constructive actions that without
44:53	a crisis going on around you , you didn't have
44:56	the authority or the ability thio put in place .
45:03	But now you've got Mawr authority . You've got people
45:07	rallied around you , and you make these long term
45:12	beneficial decisions to fix things during this crisis , and
45:17	I just think it's a great management tool . You
45:20	know , Never let a good crisis go to waste
45:23	what you know , not just cope with the crisis
45:26	. But what are all the good things I can
45:28	do for my organization during this crisis ? Put them
45:32	in place so that when you come out of the
45:34	crisis , you're better off . Then you would have
45:38	otherwise been okay , vendor expertise . So I tell
45:45	this story , um , years ago I had a
45:48	job where I bought a lot of printing and I
45:53	mean , like , a lot like millions of dollars
45:55	worth of printing brochures , mailers , all kinds of
45:58	things . And I was shopping for printers . I'm
46:02	in New York . At that time , there were
46:04	big printing companies in New York . They're all gone
46:06	. Uh , now they won't move to other states
46:10	or , you know , some somewhere . But anyway
46:14	, um , I went around to various printing companies
46:18	and I came across this guy Felix and Felix Waas
46:23	a genius about printing . He knew all about it
46:28	. I showed him what we needed to dio and
46:31	right away he made suggestions that improved it , made
46:34	it less expensive , reduced our time during the printing
46:38	process , and delivery process . And I thought ,
46:42	you know , while Felix is just amazing and the
46:46	expertise and I'm getting the benefit of this expertise if
46:51	I use him as , ah printer . Well ,
46:54	there was one thing Felix was a pain in the
46:57	neck . He , um and I'm just being polite
47:00	in my language here . He was a pain he
47:02	was difficult to deal with . He wanted to socialize
47:06	with May . I didn't want to socialize with him
47:08	. He said , Let's go to ball games .
47:10	He wanted to go out drinking . I didn't want
47:12	to go out drinking , you know , and all
47:15	of this . And you know what ? I put
47:18	up with Felix because he saved us so much money
47:22	. He made this work so much better . And
47:25	I just remember this . He was just an overwhelming
47:29	example of the expertise that vendors have because they deal
47:35	with multiple companies and their specialists , and they deal
47:39	with this . So the bus company , the caterers
47:43	who , you know , supply the food for your
47:46	school . Um , you know , obviously we talked
47:50	about a lot of vendors of software and APS thes
47:56	people are experts . Then they're dealing with dozens and
47:59	hundreds of schools in your situation , and they're happy
48:03	to talk to you and so leverage that expertise ,
48:07	find it , asked them questions , get answers .
48:11	They're a great source of information and you can think
48:13	of . And maybe you don't want to spend the
48:15	time or you don't like them or you're afraid they're
48:18	gonna start pitching you their products . You know what
48:21	think of Felix is that it was worth it .
48:25	Whatever you had to do to put up with Felix
48:27	, it was worth it to get the help that
48:30	they could provide . So , you know , these
48:33	air organizations filled with experts on Duh . So anyway
48:40	, so you know , that's a I think a
48:42	valuable tool that's at your disposal costs you nothing except
48:46	your time . And if you come across somebody who's
48:49	a pain in the neck like Felix Oh , well
48:51	, it's worth it anyway . Okay , So a
48:56	couple of things here , I'm gonna go back in
48:59	a minute . But just to remind people , um
49:03	, if you want to get a credit , um
49:07	, c p e credits or professional development credits for
49:10	doing these webinars , we're happy to provide you with
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49:22	Just let us know . Um , all the videos
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49:39	. You're on your way to getting , uh ,
49:41	c p e credits . And let me I'm gonna
49:46	stop sharing for a second , and I'm going to
49:50	put it up again . Any other comments ? Crisis
49:56	management . Now this this has been this has been
50:03	helpful , you know ? Good , good points .
50:07	I like that . I can still access the slides
50:09	and use those because a lot of that stuff is
50:11	really good to steal from and use here at the
50:14	school . Steel ? That's right , PDP . So
50:21	Oh , I didn't mean to interrupt to David .
50:23	Sorry I had I just want to let everybody know
50:28	that we had Lou Most learning do have We can
50:31	help you to provide for you staff development , different
50:34	types we can make available . And we also partner
50:37	with other people's as well . So if you need
50:40	help in something like that , please reach out to
50:43	us . We have all kinds of solutions , not
50:46	just our online products . Of course , they're awesome
50:49	as well . But one little note I wanted to
50:52	say is , um that you would consider to the
50:59	fact that different ages react differently . But then they're
51:03	all they're all Children at heart anyway . And we
51:06	can't change what happens at home , but we can
51:09	change everything within the school environment . And I think
51:12	, David , that's one of your biggest challenges right
51:14	now is being able to do that online . So
51:17	I wish you the best of luck , sir .
51:19	And all of the educators Valerie Yuhas Well , and
51:22	everyone attending and again , Dr Rogoff , thank you
51:24	for letting me be a part of this group today
51:27	. Thank you . Know , Bonnie , you're you're
51:29	fantastic . So Bonnie is a perfect example of one
51:33	of these people who's who's a great expert on all
51:36	these subjects . Has a lot to offer . And
51:39	unlike Felix , you're a pleasure to deal with .
51:42	So , uh , so I'm Southern . Y'all I
51:49	call everybody sweetheart , Darling , sugar and honey .
51:54	Uh huh . Yeah . Humor people popularity to it
51:59	didn't include any of those words . Yeah , that's
52:04	awesome . Okay , alright . Anyone else to get
52:08	to get the P . D . P . S
52:09	? We just take the quizzes . That's how you
52:11	get professional development points . Yes . What's the Yeah
52:15	, Yeah , If you have any issue with it
52:17	, just reach out to us . But I think
52:20	that's that's it . This is It depends on the
52:22	organization that's giving you the credits . You know ,
52:25	they have different rules , so but yeah , but
52:30	you know Well , man , you know , if
52:32	it turns out to be an issue , we'll manage
52:34	through it with you , so e appreciate . Okay
52:39	. Thank you all very , very much . Thank
52:41	you , David , for participating Bonnie for participating .
52:44	Uh , you know it , Z um you know
52:49	, anyway , been great . And thank you very
52:53	much , Mukunda . Thank you very much for ,
52:56	you know , for sponsoring Well , this toe happen
52:58	. Alright , Stay healthy . Everybody from you too
53:02	. Thank you so much for doing this . It
53:05	was very helpful .

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