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00:06	So , um , whenever you're ready . Uh ,
00:10	Megan , welcome to the program . Thank you so
00:13	much . And hello , everybody . Um , I
00:17	think if we want to skip to maybe the next
00:19	slide , it's got mhm hope . Next 11 more
00:26	. That's me . And that's my family . Um
00:29	, and I'm really excited to chat with you a
00:31	little bit today about our story . We have kind
00:34	of a unique perspective on the whole distance learning situation
00:39	. So I'm just going to kind of dive into
00:41	our story and let you know what ? Um ,
00:43	what we're up to . So we are a full
00:46	time traveling family . Um , we've been doing that
00:50	for two years now , and this is not so
00:54	. I know . You know , sometimes you might
00:55	have thoughts that come into your head About what a
00:57	what a homeschooling family might look like , what a
00:59	full time traveling family might look like . Um ,
01:01	this is not something that was on our radar two
01:03	years ago . My husband and I are actually both
01:07	recovering classroom teachers , so our kids are older .
01:11	Kids were in traditional school . We did not plan
01:13	to be home schoolers , but we were kind of
01:17	miserable . We were overcommitted we were over scheduled ,
01:21	unfulfilled , just adding things to our plate to try
01:25	to . I feel like we were fulfilled and nothing
01:27	was working . And so one day I said ,
01:29	You know what ? I just I'm from the East
01:31	Coast and we were living in Arizona and I was
01:33	like , I just want to go back home .
01:35	I just want to go back to the beach .
01:36	I want to be on the East Coast . Um
01:39	and my husband said , Sounds good . So our
01:43	plan originally was Let's just move back to the East
01:45	Coast And in the meantime , we thought , Well
01:47	, if we're going to sell our house anyway ,
01:50	why don't we take our time getting there and so
01:52	that you know , one idea led to the next
01:54	, and here we are two years later , we've
01:57	been traveling the States full time since then . Um
02:00	, we did have plans to go overseas , which
02:02	have been pushed back because we were supposed to go
02:04	last April in . Nobody was really traveling anywhere this
02:08	past April . So hopefully we'll be able to do
02:10	that next year . But in the meantime , we've
02:12	been travelling around the US We've been to 43 states
02:16	so far . And next week we're going to add
02:17	two more . Um , so and of course ,
02:20	we've homeschool their kids along the way , and my
02:23	husband and I both work online . That's how we
02:24	make it work . A lot of people say ,
02:26	How do you live in an RV ? And I
02:28	say , Well , we don't live in our in
02:30	an RV . We travel in a minivan and we
02:32	book Airbnb s , um , sometimes we have stayed
02:36	with family , Um , and occasionally in a hotel
02:38	, if we're somewhere just really briefly So it's a
02:41	It's a unique lifestyle . Um , and , uh
02:44	So when covid kind of came along , it affected
02:47	us , affected our travels a bit , but as
02:50	far as schooling at home , we were already doing
02:52	it , So it wasn't a big a big change
02:54	for us . Um , so I want to share
02:56	a little bit about how we home school . Um
02:58	, I think it can be applicable to you ,
03:00	even if you are doing just since learning along with
03:03	a more traditional school . So as we've gone out
03:10	along the past two years , we've kind of developed
03:12	our own system of home schooling , pulling together resources
03:16	from a lot of different places . Online workbooks ,
03:20	um , free resources , paid resources . And we
03:23	just kind of figured out what works for us .
03:24	We pulled together everything that gives us the best bang
03:26	for our book . Um , and in our case
03:28	takes up the least amount of space because again ,
03:30	we're traveling in a minivan . Um , so let's
03:33	go to the next slide , and I want to
03:36	introduce you to Harrison . We also call him Harry
03:39	. He's my third child and he was five when
03:43	we started out . So here in this picture ,
03:45	he looks so young to me because he's seven now
03:48	. Um , but when we were the summer ,
03:49	we were deciding whether or not we were going to
03:51	do this . Take this big trip . He was
03:53	headed for kindergarten , and it was really difficult to
03:57	say , Um , you know , are we going
03:59	to pull him out of school ? Is he going
04:00	to miss ? And I know that's probably heading home
04:03	to a lot of you right now . You're missing
04:05	out on experiences . Maybe that's kindergarten . Maybe that's
04:07	high school graduation . Whatever it is , it's It's
04:10	difficult . It's difficult for you as a parent ,
04:12	I think , more so when , when they're in
04:14	kindergarten . I think it's more the parents that feel
04:16	they're missing out , then maybe the actual child .
04:19	But we were deciding at the last minute he was
04:22	signed up for kindergarten , he had a teacher .
04:24	And the night of when he was supposed to go
04:27	meet his teacher , we were like , No ,
04:30	we're going to travel . We're going to do this
04:31	. So let's not take him , um , and
04:34	confuse him . So and I cried . I cried
04:37	all night like it was it was so difficult to
04:39	think about . There was this little desk somewhere that
04:41	said Harrison and , you know , the kindergarten graduation
04:44	graduation ceremony that he wasn't gonna get to have ,
04:47	um , So I'm going to stop that story there
04:50	were going to come back to it at the end
04:51	, and But I'll give you a spoiler does have
04:53	a happy ending . Um , we'll come back to
04:55	him . So on the next slide , um ,
04:59	from everything that we've learned over the past few years
05:02	, I've actually developed an online course called Home School
05:05	made simple . Um , and in it , I've
05:08	broken down kind of the system into seven really simple
05:12	steps to go from . I have no idea What
05:14	is homeschooling ? How do I get started to a
05:16	successful home schooler ? Um , just to kind of
05:18	simplify it for today . There's three main parts of
05:21	that , and the first one is just the prep
05:23	work , like legal requirements and the standards . And
05:26	what do I teach for each grade level , and
05:29	then the second part is planning your resources . How
05:32	am I going to teach ? What ? What's out
05:33	there online for me to use ? What can I
05:35	order off Amazon ? Um , a lot of people
05:38	ask us , How do you get your mail ?
05:39	Um , and we haven't sent to family , But
05:42	also , Amazon lockers are an awesome way to go
05:45	. You can order just about anything , and as
05:47	long as you're not in a super rural area ,
05:49	you can you can get to it . So ,
05:52	um , that's step two . And then step three
05:55	is basically day to day , you know ? What
05:56	are we going to do ? How do I teach
05:58	kids that are in different grade levels ? And how
06:02	do we structure our time ? How do I keep
06:04	everybody on task ? So I'm going to focus a
06:07	little bit on that third step and just give you
06:09	an insight into something that's worked really well for us
06:12	. So in the next slide , you're going to
06:14	see , um , this is a more traditional ,
06:16	time based schedule that a student might see if they're
06:19	going into a regular traditional school . And this makes
06:22	sense because the teachers are coordinating with the lunch room
06:25	schedule and they're coordinating with the music teacher and they
06:29	have 30 students , you know , Um , so
06:32	it makes sense . We have to be on this
06:33	kind of time schedule . Well , when you're at
06:36	home , we learned that that doesn't work . That's
06:40	not necessarily the best way to go about things .
06:42	Um , and , you know , depending on your
06:43	situation , you may actually have some time based things
06:47	right now where the students have to be online .
06:49	Um , and that's okay . You might also have
06:52	some time on your hands where you're able to structure
06:54	the learning . So let's look at the next slide
06:56	, and I'll show you kind of what we came
06:58	up with . And that is the idea of basically
07:00	task , a task based system . We call this
07:04	our school tracker , and it's a in Google sheets
07:08	. So in within Google Drive so that our kids
07:11	can access them . My husband and I can both
07:13	access them , and this is a constantly , um
07:17	, evolving document . And you can say , See
07:20	, this one was for Vanessa . She's our nine
07:21	year old and we have a different one for each
07:25	student , although there is some overlap as well .
07:27	Um , they I'll start their day writing in a
07:30	journal . Um , and basically , like I said
07:33	, it's just a list of the tasks that they
07:34	need to go through each day , and this can
07:38	change , and this has changed over time . It's
07:40	also an easy way for them to go in ,
07:42	and each column is a day , and they record
07:44	what they have done . Um , it's an easy
07:46	way to link to resources , and again we can
07:48	come in and see exactly what they've worked on .
07:51	Um , so this one example right here for Vanessa
07:56	was from March of this year , and she started
07:59	her day writing in a journal . She did sometimes
08:01	table practice that links out to a website where she
08:05	could practice her times tables . She would do a
08:07	math lesson onto science , um , and so on
08:09	, and you can see we have some kind of
08:10	unique things that we've added in , like typing practice
08:13	, certainly something that , in this day and age
08:15	, is going to benefit even the young ones .
08:18	And she had a recorder , so she was practicing
08:20	music . And under number nine there you see Grandma
08:23	Isla questions . At that time , we were living
08:25	with my mother in law , Um , and each
08:27	kid would go in each day and ask her two
08:29	or three questions about her life . Um , and
08:30	they learned lots of really cool things about their grandma
08:34	. And so if we want to go ahead to
08:36	the next slide , I'll just show you a slightly
08:37	different version , which was actually from last year .
08:40	This was Carter's . He's he just turned 12 .
08:43	Um , but he was 10 or 11 at this
08:46	time . So again , he would start with his
08:49	journal . He would do math science . Um ,
08:52	they were learning French because we still hopefully we'll make
08:54	it France eventually , Um and maybe by then they'll
08:57	be fluent . Who knows ? We'll see . Uh
08:59	, we have been traveling , um , with his
09:02	trombone because he was playing in the school band before
09:04	we left . And so he's been able to keep
09:06	up with that and you know , eventually we do
09:08	actually plan to settle down and probably put our kids
09:12	back in traditional school . But we'll just play it
09:14	by ear and see how that goes . Um ,
09:16	it's funny because when you have your kids at home
09:18	and we thought originally our older kids that were already
09:22	in school were in accelerated classes . So we thought
09:26	, Well , worst case scenario . We travel for
09:29	a year . They learned nothing . They're not behind
09:31	because they were ahead . Um , but we really
09:34	underestimated when you're one on one with a student or
09:37	in this case for you know , one on four
09:40	. Um , you can just move so quickly .
09:42	And I think Maureen was pointing at that out to
09:45	that . You know , we don't need six hours
09:47	of school a day , especially at the at the
09:49	younger levels . Um , but when you have that
09:51	one on one personal attention , you can just I
09:53	mean , my son , who was in sixth grade
09:55	, was doing high school chemistry , and my husband
09:57	said , Don't tell him it's high school . He's
09:59	not going to want to do it . Um ,
10:02	so it's just been really , really great in that
10:04	sense . Um , another really cool thing about the
10:07	tracker is if they have an area that you're like
10:11	, Oh , they really need some extra practice on
10:12	this . You just you just change up the tracker
10:15	and you add it in there . Um , my
10:16	oldest has atrocious handwriting , and I can identify ,
10:21	because mine is probably worse . Um , but ,
10:24	you know , we wanted him to practice that .
10:26	So we added it to his tracker , and he
10:27	practiced handwriting every day . Um , you can see
10:30	we have some fun things on there , like chess
10:32	, um , and writing an email to someone just
10:35	to kind of get those life skills in there as
10:37	well . And in this at this time , we
10:40	were doing specials . So every Monday , they would
10:42	do computer programming , And , um , on Friday
10:45	they would watch an episode of Mythbusters to learn something
10:47	about science . And there's some , you know ,
10:49	you can think outside the box . And is that
10:52	school absolutely that school . And so this has been
10:55	a really cool way for us to just structure are
10:58	learning . Um , it's really a glorified spreadsheet .
11:01	So you can absolutely make this yourself . I have
11:04	a download if you , uh it's I don't remember
11:09	this , but family gap . Your guide . That's
11:11	my kind of my brand when I teach other families
11:14	how to travel full time Family gap year guide dot
11:17	com slash tracker And I'm sure we can send that
11:19	out later on as well , but that you can
11:22	get your own download . Um , so on the
11:25	next slide , just a few more quick tips to
11:28	kind of wrap up a few things like you saw
11:31	in the Tracker . If you front load your day
11:33	with the most important things , it's okay if you
11:36	don't get through everything on that list every day .
11:38	So if they read and they write and they do
11:40	some math like those are those are what we would
11:42	put at the top as as maybe the most important
11:45	things to get done . Then your everyday is a
11:47	success if you get through those things , especially if
11:51	the rest of the day is used for family time
11:54	or in our case , traveling and going out and
11:56	seeing the local area that we're living in at that
11:58	point in time . You know , however you can
12:00	use or learning the life skills you're cooking a meal
12:02	together . That's a successful day , and then um
12:06	, like I just said , looking for opportunities to
12:07	learn about your local culture and history . Even if
12:09	you don't travel wherever you happen to be , There's
12:12	lots of outdoor free activities that , um that ,
12:15	you know , I feel like we're the worst at
12:17	exploring our own neighborhood . So there's probably lots of
12:19	things out there that you're not even aware of .
12:22	Make it a game . So when my son was
12:24	starting to Harrison , my kindergartener when we started ,
12:28	he was still learning to read and working on sight
12:30	words . So we found this game online where you'd
12:33	make little circular pieces of paper and write the words
12:35	on them , and they were pancakes , and you
12:37	would hand him a spatula and had flipped him over
12:39	as he learned them . And all of a sudden
12:41	it was a game . And he was having fun
12:42	learning his words . Um , to the point of
12:45	you know , I have kids that are all at
12:46	all different levels . Have them teach one another .
12:49	Um , you know , while you're working with one
12:51	kid , have another one . I don't know how
12:54	many you have . I've got four . So you're
12:56	working with one ? Have one read a book to
12:58	the other . And then everybody's learning . Everybody's ,
13:01	um , you know , doing something to move forward
13:06	or help somebody else out . And then , lastly
13:08	, always be adapting . Like I said with our
13:10	school tracker , Um , we change that up any
13:13	time we need to . We we actually keep it
13:16	going through the summer just because we know if we
13:18	don't , our kids will just want to play Minecraft
13:20	for seven hours a day . So we do a
13:22	lighter schedule . This past summer , we added learning
13:25	patriotic songs and , um , Shakespeare quotes and learning
13:29	. You know , the preamble and things like that
13:31	that were a little bit different for are for summertime
13:35	. So , um , to wrap up our story
13:38	from the beginning if we want to look at the
13:39	next slide . Remember , Harry Harry missed out on
13:45	traditional kindergarten , but let's look at the next slide
13:49	, and I'm not going to read every single thing
13:54	. But the next slide shows a whole list of
13:58	all of the not all of the things some of
14:00	the things that we've done in the past two years
14:02	, and if you just kind of glance through that
14:04	, there's some really incredible things that are in there
14:06	. Um , and , you know , he missed
14:09	out on a desk with his name on it ,
14:10	but he got to see the pandas at the National
14:13	Zoo , and we saw a sea turtle being released
14:16	back into the ocean . And we did a sandcastle
14:19	building lesson on the beach and visited Independence Hall .
14:23	And all these really , really need experiences that that
14:26	he wouldn't have had in a traditional classroom . So
14:28	that's really cool . And he did one more thing
14:31	, and you'll see that on the next slide .
14:40	He graduated kindergarten . So even though we were sad
14:44	that he wasn't seen out on certain traditional things ,
14:47	you know , there was so much more to be
14:48	gained , and we got on Amazon . We ordered
14:51	him a cap and gown and darn it , we
14:53	had our own little family , um , celebration where
14:56	we gave him a diploma . And he gave a
14:59	little speech , and it was just adorable . So
15:01	I think it's safe to say that he didn't miss
15:03	out on anything . Um , so , yeah ,
15:05	just to wrap up when it comes down to it
15:07	, You know your child better than anybody else .
15:09	So you can be their best teacher . So whether
15:11	you're loving this time at home or struggling , Uh
15:15	, you know , just do your best to make
15:16	the best of the situation . And hopefully what we've
15:19	shared today has has helped out , so thank you
15:21	so much . Wow . Thank you . This I
15:25	got really inspiring . Amazing , uh , story .
15:31	Um , uh , so there's a couple of questions
15:34	. Do you stay in touch with their teachers at
15:38	school ? You know that there . And , um
15:42	, you know , you know where you were living
15:44	when the school that you were registered in , we
15:48	don't We officially pulled them out . We were in
15:50	Arizona , and Arizona has certain requirements Where basically ,
15:53	you just have to file an affidavit to say I'm
15:54	going to home school , which we did . So
15:56	they . And because we didn't plan on going back
15:59	to Arizona , we don't , um , like I
16:01	said , we want to move to the east Coast
16:03	. Um , it we didn't feel like we needed
16:05	to , so we just said Well , home school
16:06	for originally it was just a year now it's been
16:08	we're moving into our third year , and eventually ,
16:10	when we do , um , settle down , we'll
16:12	just sign them up , probably with their local school
16:15	district . So and and so I mean , you
16:19	and your husband are teachers , so you're familiar with
16:23	the traditional curriculums and such , Um , are you
16:28	structuring what you do with them related to to sort
16:34	of traditional regular school curriculum ? Or , um ,
16:40	you feel you feel comfortable ? It's more productive to
16:43	sort of go off on , you know , ways
16:45	that you feel are , you know , useful and
16:49	educational for them . I think it's a real good
16:51	mix of both . Um , certainly . We ,
16:54	um , use online courses where , for example ,
16:58	you know , someone might , um , Harrison would
17:00	have jumped on early on and done kindergarten math .
17:03	And now he's technically a second grader , and I
17:06	think he's in the fourth grade math . So we
17:09	are following what traditionally would be taught from grade to
17:11	grade . But like I said , we found out
17:13	that they can move so quickly that my daughter ,
17:17	who's in fourth this year , has finished ninth grade
17:20	, um , an English language English language arts course
17:23	online . And sometimes we actually have them go back
17:26	. Just because they're so far ahead were like Go
17:29	back to kindergarten . You know , my daughter is
17:30	in fourth , go back and do all the kindergarten
17:32	lessons . You know , maybe it's a math just
17:34	for that . Like , um , to solidify it
17:37	, you know , to make sure , you know
17:38	, you know all of these things , and and
17:39	it's fun for them because it's easy , you know
17:41	? And then they work back up to where they
17:42	are . Um , so , yeah , there's a
17:44	lot of traditional learning in there , and and a
17:48	lot of fun , too . Yeah , that's ,
17:51	you know , fantastic . And , um , let
17:54	me just see other questions . Um , So one
17:57	question is , um can you work out socializing with
18:02	other kids ? Or do you do that in person
18:05	? Do you do it virtually , Um , you
18:08	know , how does that , uh , how does
18:10	that work ? That's a great question . Um ,
18:12	I can't say we've done a whole lot intentionally .
18:16	There are four of them , so they , um
18:19	it's kind were always a party . You know ,
18:20	we joke sometimes the parties here because there's six of
18:22	us . Um , and like I said , sometimes
18:25	we stayed with family . So when we're in Arizona
18:28	, my we stay with my mother in law and
18:30	her , um , we have cousins right next door
18:33	, so they love seeing their cousins . And there
18:36	have been certain , um , Airbnb s where there
18:39	was one in Florida . We stayed at where the
18:41	owners owned the house . It was a house on
18:43	their property , so they were right there and they
18:45	had a couple of kids . And my goodness ,
18:47	our kids live with them every single day . They
18:49	were like , Are we done with school ? Are
18:50	we done with school ? Because we want to go
18:51	play with our friends ? Um , I happen to
18:53	have kids that are just ridiculously outgoing . So if
18:56	we take them to a playground , Yeah , you
18:58	know , 30 seconds later , they've each attached themselves
19:01	to a kid their age , and they've made a
19:02	friend , um , so we're lucky in that respect
19:05	. But there's definitely ways that you can meet up
19:08	with other parents . There's lots of Facebook groups out
19:10	there of other families that are traveling that will do
19:13	meet ups . Um , there's , you know ,
19:15	museums and science centers that will do home school ,
19:19	um , days where you can , you know ,
19:21	it's a special for home schoolers , and you can
19:23	meet other homeschoolers there . So there's a few ideas
19:26	. Do you feel a question ? Do you feel
19:29	that you that you can sort of see the direction
19:33	, the academic interests , the thought processes , the
19:37	interests in the world that your kids , um ,
19:41	are likely to follow , given that you work with
19:44	them so closely on on learning . So my oldest
19:49	, who just turned 12 wants to be a Disney
19:52	Imagineer . Um , he's very interested in , um
19:57	so , like the the intersection of engineering and computer
20:01	science and video games and theme parks . And we're
20:05	like , Well , we can see a very direct
20:06	group path . Rio . Um , so , yeah
20:10	, definitely . My daughter is more artistic . She
20:12	loves she loves to dance and sing . Um ,
20:15	and that's my well , actually both of us that
20:17	were performing arts T shirt so we can help out
20:20	with that for sure . Um , yeah . I
20:21	mean , there's no question if you're if you're there
20:23	working with your your child day in and day out
20:27	, you're definitely going to know them much better for
20:30	sure . Yeah . Fantastic . Well , you know
20:34	, I set the bar high for our three Panelists
20:38	at the beginning of this hour , and I can
20:41	say , um , with certainty that they all yeah
20:45	, comfortably cleared that bar . Um , these people
20:49	are experts . They're thoughtful . They gave us all
20:52	practical . Um , useful , constructive , relevant advice
20:58	for this time . Um , if , uh ,
21:01	does anyone want to unmute themselves and ask any other
21:06	questions ? You know , the slides will be available
21:10	. Um , the , you know , links to
21:12	their materials will be available . Um , the pictures
21:19	of Harry will be available . Such a cute picture
21:23	of , uh , Harry graduating . Um , so
21:27	anyone have anything they want to say ? Otherwise ,
21:30	uh , we can bring this program to a successful
21:36	conclusion , thanks to our , you know , terrific
21:39	speakers . All right , I think Hopes . Oops
21:46	. Oops . Wait a second . Is some other
21:49	chad things . Uh uh . So one person asked
21:59	, Do you have any ? This is for Megan
22:01	. Do you have any recommendation for trying to work
22:03	with Children who are reluctant to take direction from Mom
22:07	? That is , Mom as a teacher ? A
22:11	really good question . Um , and actually , in
22:14	our situation , my husband actually does most of the
22:17	home schooling because I have a 8 to 5 job
22:22	. I think , honestly , a part of that
22:26	goes back . You know , even further to have
22:29	you established a relationship where there is a respect there
22:34	, and there's an understanding . Um , but yeah
22:40	, I mean that that that can be tricky .
22:42	Um , I think the more structured you can be
22:46	from day to day , you know , for example
22:49	, we have a morning routine , and they do
22:50	the same . They know we get up , we
22:53	shower , we have breakfast , we get started on
22:54	school . And that's just , um , non negotiable
22:57	every day . And so , you know , we
23:00	don't have to fight it every day . Um ,
23:02	I guess maybe fight it early on , and then
23:04	make sure those expectations are kind of lined up ,
23:07	and the more consistent you can be from day to
23:10	day , I think the less push back you'll see
23:14	, But everyone's everyone's different . And , uh ,
23:17	you know , that's true . Yeah . You know
23:19	, fantastic . Let me just ask Dr Miller .
23:22	I mean , in a in a sense , Megan
23:24	and her family are applying your tools . You know
23:29	, they're setting goals that creating structure . Um ,
23:32	they have , you know , they have accountability for
23:35	what they're doing . Um , you know , so
23:39	you know they have a version of your approach .
23:43	You think that's a fair way to characterize it ?
23:46	Yes , I do . And I wanted to piggyback
23:49	off for what Megan just said in response to the
23:52	question So , uh , most of my experiences in
23:57	again . Like I said , that potential population is
24:00	marginalized , underserved arena . So I've worked with parents
24:04	and still do now because my art colleges 100% virtual
24:08	Um um , where there's I'm going to say ,
24:13	a clash between the parent and the child because it's
24:16	evident and just being transparent as possible that the parent
24:20	does not have . I'm gonna say the content that
24:25	the grasp of the content that the child is learning
24:28	. So , for instance , middle school high school
24:30	, the child is learning . Don't really say algebra
24:32	two . And that parent in this urban arena might
24:36	have dropped out of school . So now the child
24:39	is saying , Well , you can't tell me ,
24:41	um , kind of how what to do So they
24:43	won't you know , necessarily want to listen . Um
24:46	, so what ? What we have suggested that have
24:50	seen and saw is that hold the goal setting piece
24:54	. Um , there's a part of that where the
24:57	parent and the child are talking conversating what Megan was
25:00	saying . The relationship is built together , and that
25:03	relationship has ownership on both sides . That's the beauty
25:07	of of the whole goal setting . It's not just
25:10	the child , the parent telling the child what's going
25:12	to happen or the child telling the parent . There's
25:15	a discussion and there's a you know , a contract
25:19	, whether it's , you know , uh , written
25:21	or it's , you know , just understood . Unspoken
25:24	. That contract now puts them both in charge They
25:27	both own . You know what is being measured ,
25:30	how it's being rewarded . And that's one of the
25:33	suggestions that I always make with parents . Start there
25:36	first , backtrack and have a conversation and and and
25:40	start to , you know , give up ownership and
25:42	and and add ownership and work on something together .
25:44	And I and I believe you'll see your child is
25:47	a little more , Um , I'm willing to comply
25:52	and work towards the goal because it's not just yours
25:54	. Stairs as well . Fantastic . And and ,
25:59	uh , Megan posted in Chat the link to a
26:05	Family gap year guide dot com , which is fantastic
26:11	. And , you know , and like I said
26:13	, we will get back to everybody with , you
26:16	know , slides and you know we're available any you
26:19	know , any other participants ? Any of the attendees
26:22	, you know , have any further questions . So
26:25	I want to thank everybody very , very much for
26:27	participating . You know , our Panelists , you're amazing
26:31	. Fantastic . And , um and I think you
26:34	give everybody reasons for optimism that they can manage this
26:39	process . And , uh , people need that ,
26:42	you know , not to descend into , uh ,
26:44	hopelessness about this . That's not going to get you
26:47	anywhere . So your you know , your great models
26:50	for us and great advice . So thank you all
26:53	. And thank you , everyone who's , uh ,
26:56	who attended and all of those who will attend When
27:00	you as you visit the , uh , you know
27:03	, Lou most side to watch the program ? Um
27:05	, a synchronously . So with that , Thank you
27:09	all . I'm gonna sign off . Thanks again .
27:12	Um and , uh , be well , be healthy
27:16	. Stay safe . Take care , everyone .

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